Experimentation, how does being bold work?

[AAAgent]

I decided to experiment on some idea's that i haven't tried before on girls that i am meeting. Kind of like incog except I don't do hilarious experiments, i'm mainly here to do serious experiments that will generate serious responses as in actual dates or anything along those lines.

Brief background on this hb 6
She lost her phone once and i found it for her. she lost is again this time and told me to text her and let her know it was me. I did and she goes on to say that maybe it was time for her to lose her phone since she wanted an iphone anyway. She has said in the past she doesn't date younger guys anymore and that she's done with dating. A few guys have tried to ask her out but to no success.

I decided to be direct and straight to the point since she has told me straight out that she wont date for a while and she doesn't like younger guys. I decided to directly ask her out to a date and see her reaction.

So here goes what i tried today through text:

HB6: Heyyy good to hear from ya! can u believe it? I lost my cell AGAIN!

Me: Haha it's because I wasn't there to find it.

HB6: Must be haha well I got to buy an iPhone instead haha now I believe things do happen for a reason

Me: Hahahaha. Maybe it's the time to try new things. Like dating, give it a shot. Dinner next week?

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Just want your opinions on what you think her response would be to this.

 

[Igetit!]

Does being bold work?



YES!!!



Its better to be bold and agressive and approach a girl than to be all nervous and shaking,knees knocking,palms sweating,and stammering and stuttering all over your words and trying to ask her out.


You have the right idea,but that line where you said...

Maybe it's time to try new things. Like dating.give it a shot. Dinner next week?

isn't strong enough,or at least in my opinion,it isn't.


You need to push HARDER...



If you need an example,here's one I like from Kingsupreme:http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1621971


I wouldn't tell a complete stranger to get off her phone,but I like the agressiveness of it.



And here's another example from A field report of mine. HERE. These examples are what I mean.


If you can get a date by what you already have planned to say,then cool,but it's not powerful enough.



You're asking her. You need to take the option out of her hands,have a strong frame,and EXPECT HER to just fall in line.



So instead of saying,"Maybe we could try dating. Dinner next week?",you could try something like,"Hey are you taken? You belong to anybody? Because if not,I WANT to see you.


Just come straight out and say it. Don't stammer and choke when you speak,tell her you want to see her.


Be like,"If you don't belong to anybody,then I WANT to see you...unless you got some kind of problem with that".



I'm serious. You'd be surprised at how something so simple could trigger attraction in a woman.



Most girls are so used to guys hinting,and beating around the bush,that to just come straight out and tell her you want to see her would be refreshing.



But you have to speak like a MAN.


You can't approach her like you're trying to find your way out of a mine field.

 

[AAAgent]

i didn't ask her to try dating me. I was just merely emphasizing the fact that she refuses to date and at the same time asked her out on a date.

This was the response i got:

HB6: Nooo dating sucks. But dinner's always welcome! Haha yeah next week sounds good.


But perhaps you're right. i could be more bold but i felt like i was straight out asking her out on a date as well as letting her know that it was a date no matter how she tried to view it if she did accept.

So any suggestions for a another bold approach.

 

[Prod]

Liked that text message, it had some balls in the context of things.

 

[Igetit!]

This was the response i got:

HB6: Nooo dating sucks. But dinner's always welcome! Haha yeah next week sounds good.

Ha,ha,typical female response.

She said dating sucks,but dinner is welcome. So she agreed to go out on a date,but first she relabeled the meeting from being a "date" to just "dinner".




You know what that means,don't you? It means she's open to seeing what you have to offer. Basically,she's giving you a chance,but she changed it from a "date" to "dinner" in case she's isn't interested.


You see what I'm saying?



"Date" implies some sort of possible commitment,which she doesn't want with you RIGHT NOW because she doesn't know what you'd be like in a relationship.



So she changed it to "dinner". This way if it turns out she doesn't like you,she can be like,"It wasn't like we went out on a date. It was just dinner,that's all".




Now if she does like you,and you continue having these "dinners",EMOTIONALLY,she'll consider it dating,and she'll start acting like you two are in a relationship...although technically,all you two will have had were several "dinners".




I have to give it to women:They know how to fix things up by staying on the fence and not commiting.



She told you dating sucks. Really.



Well watch how much it sucks if she likes you,and feels attraction for you when you take her out. Over course dating sucks when you're either single with no prospects,or at the end of a relationship.

i could be more bold ...

You better be,and I mean DIRECT BOLDNESS.


When you told her about trying something else like dating,she said ...Nooo,dating sucks.



Now personally,I don't believe her. Like countless members before me have said...If Brad Pitt asked her out on a date,you think she'd say,"Nooo,dating sucks."?


With Brad Pitt,the attraction is already a forgone conclusion.



With you,she has to get to know you, That's way she wouldn't commit to it being a "date",and changed it to "dinner".



That way,she'd have a way out if she doesn't like you.



If she does like you,then SHE"LL change the title of you two getting together from "dinner" to "dating". Not with words,but by her actions/emotions.



Don't let women fool you with that indecisiveness crock.


They know what they're doing.

So any suggestions for a another bold approach.

Yeah,give her a day or two to herself,then CALL HER up,talk to her a little,then ask her what she's going to wear FOR YOU.


That's right,I said,"FOR YOU".



Even though she called it dinner,you act and behave like a MAN who's attracted to a woman...REGUARDLESS of what she says.

 

[AAAgent]

haha alright. i think i'll give that a shot. i'd also like some suggestions for other girls.