Experiment: I want to play harder to get with this girl. Your input is welcome.

[narcissist]

texted this girl for a date.

she agreed eagerly. I told her I would msg her the next day and tell her when we were going to meet up on the day because i had to figure other sh*t out before I could give a concrete time.

I text her today giving her the time and sh*t

she msgs back saying "Oh. I didnt think you were actually going to give a time, so I told one of my friends I would study with her. Are you free for sunday at 7?"

so this is the classic "flake and counter offer" scenario, that many of us run into whilst playing the game

now she gave a counter offer which is fine - shows that she is still interested, but seeing as this is the start I dont want to give off the impression that Im okay with girls flaking on me. I want to implicitly give off the vibe that, that sh*t is whack.

I am free on sunday but do you guys agree that I should say that "Im going to be busy", and go to the gym instead and catch up on school work? I see this girl about 3 times a week in school so there is always another chance with her.


I want to play harder to get with this girl and experiment a little bit with my game, and see whether or not this increases attraction. What do you guys think?

 

[narcissist]

Based on the information given, I would ignore her until she texts again. she is playing games and she offered a very sh!t time slot. Her IL is not that high. This is a high risk/high reward move to be sure but you are a man with options so you can afford to make moves like this.

okay good advice.. I do have three classes with this girl, and have sort of made it a habitual thing to sit with each other. So how should I act when I have class with her? because I normally act ****y funny. I suppose keep it the same way to show that I am unaffected? I dont want to come across as actually being affected by this girl, because I am not, but I dont want her to think Im a little afc b*tch either, or i wont get to crush the pvssy. Its a delicate game thats for sure.

also if she texts back with banter and regular chit chat, and no counter offer, ignore? low IL?

but other than that I do like the ignore move. No point in acknowledging low IL.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

If this isn't a $hit test, I don't know what is.

I told her I would msg her the next day and tell her when we were going to meet up

I text her today giving her the time and sh*t

she msgs back saying "Oh. I didnt think you were actually going to give a time, so I told one of my friends I would study with her. Are you free for sunday at 7?"

Here's the thing, doesn't matter if you're free on Sunday or not. What matters is if YOU will still WANT to see a girl that is that fvcking stupid and/or doesn't give two fvcks about what YOU plan/say.

If she has some intelligence, ^this is her $hit test.

This is a time you can call her out:

"Huh?"

If she keeps playing the dumb/stupid card, run the other way. You specifically made a 'date' to see her and she made plans to 'study' with a friend, then you, as a MAN, have no time for that fvcking B.S.

If she's really planned to "study with a friend", then she can cancel that all day, and SHE WILL.

I don't even know if this dignifies a response. If anything keep it short and sweet: "okay, no go for Sunday."

I'm willing to bet something like ^this will garner a response: "Well, I guess I could cancel with my friend"

But, I wouldn't accept it: "study with your friend"

Then, while she realizes she's dealing with a MAN, who has standards and is not going to put up with her B.S., she will beg and plead for YOU to reconsider.

And off you go.... Starting off on the right foot.

Edit, Just saw this:

okay good advice.. I do have three classes with this girl, and have sort of made it a habitual thing to sit with each other. So how should I act when I have class with her? because I normally act ****y funny. I suppose keep it the same way to show that I am unaffected? I dont want to come across as actually being affected by this girl, because I am not, but I dont want her to think Im a little afc b*tch either, or i wont get to crush the pvssy. Its a delicate game thats for sure.

If nothing works out (no date happens), I'd tone it back a bit, withdrawal some of your intention, you're not in the business of giving it to her for free. But, yes, no emotions. The only thing that has effected you is your respect level for her, she's shown herself to be a ding bat. So, I guess, treat her as such.

 

[narcissist]

thanks for the advice, you guys!

You guys make very good points.

If this isn't a $hit test, I don't know what is.

If nothing works out (no date happens), I'd tone it back a bit, withdrawal some of your intention, you're not in the business of giving it to her for free. But, yes, no emotions. The only thing that has effected you is your respect level for her, she's shown herself to be a ding bat. So, I guess, treat her as such.

This is exactly the way i felt. Your whole post was on point, but I didnt want to quote the whole thing. Shes acting dumb as fvck and that is really unattractive and unappealing to me. I have lost respect for her, and ive also lost some attraction for her, which is unfortunate because she was doing so well in my books as of late, but now, im definitely reconsidering her position and prospect as a future plate of mine.

It definitely is a sh*t test. Im not even going to acknowledge it. No text. Just ignore. I dont play that sh*t. I dont give my attention out freely, especially to women that want to test how much attention they can leech from me, to see if im friendzone material, absolutely not.

So the game plan is as such: she either shows by some miraculous action that she is down as fvck to go on a date with me and that her IL is very high, or my attention gets pulled down a notch.

Thank you both for the advice. always good to get a second opinion on the course of action. This is one of the reason why I still love this site.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Shes acting dumb as fvck and that is really unattractive and unappealing to me. I have lost respect for her, and ive also lost some attraction for her, which is unfortunate because she was doing so well in my books as of late, but now, im definitely reconsidering her position and prospect as a future plate of mine.

Standards

And self-respect, it goes a long way.

 

[Greasy Pig]

I'd just text, "Can't do Sunday. Have a good day."
Ignoring is the hamster-nuking move I love but if she's offered a counter, I'd cut her just a tiny bit of slack.

 

[nismo-4]

Let her text back Sunday, but don't hold your breath.

I recently had a bytch want to meet me sexually and when I called her to go see her, she didn't answer the phone or texts. I left a nasty voicemail, part of which said I found a better woman and she (the flake) was not that attractive, and deleted her from all platforms.

I mostly do online dating. I enforce my one strike policy.

 

[narcissist]

update: she messaged me this morning after I ignored her

It seems like im going to have to message her back because she just sent another text this morning as if to implicitly say "please dont ignore me"

her text simply said the nickname that she calls me

so clearly her hamster is spinning like crazy

Im not sure if this is a sh*t test or an actual sign of interest. Those two things are getting blurred every day hahaha.

I feel like if i ignore this, its going to seem like im being a stubborn school girl.

I think Im going to say "okay, sunday is a no go"

or i might go with greasy pig's "cant do sunday. have a nice day"

something along those lines, probably a hybrid of the two. it doesnt really matter what i send. The important thing is SHOULD i send something? or continue ignoring even after she sent another message?

Before i do anything I wouldnt mind your guys input

 

[SmooveMooves]

I would've just messaged back

'Yooooo'

Or

'Heyyyy'

Or whatever your standard greeting to her is. Just to see what she wants. You don't have to say anything, let her do the talking. Pretend like you never even got the counter offer message unless she brings it up again.

 

[BrainDamage92]

omfg just stop playing games and tell her to want to see her so you can hug her and kiss her and hold her in your arms and all that **** and that **** or just say you like her and dat **** is killing you couse you obviously thinkin bout that **** alot

then if she pulls back she was playing with you for attention and is not even worth a **** a woman knows what she wants

 

[narcissist]

"Hey sexy"

haha actually i like this. I will probably use this.

 

[narcissist]

...and this is why i love this website <3

So I took PairPlus's advice and sent her "hey sexy" when she msged me again earlier this morning saying my name.

within about 10 mins she responses with

"I can do today, my friend and I met up earlier than planned"
and "Im at school as we speak "

The funny thing is last night when she flaked, my other plate msged me to go out with her, and i agreed so Im going to have to tell HBflake no. hahaha. The DJ gods are in my favour today.

Im going to say something like "Cant do it, made other plans. See you in class."

man it feels good to be in control.

But I'm going to reply in like an hour or something, so if you guys have any better responses let me know.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

The funny thing is last night when she flaked, my other plate msged me to go out with her, and i agreed so Im going to have to tell HBflake no. hahaha. The DJ gods are in my favour today.

Im going to say something like "Cant do it, made other plans. See you in class."

Young men, this is why you spin plates.

Just beautiful.... *tears*