experiment: critique/analyse my results

[garruk]

a little while ago i made a post about how in the last year i just focused on developing my value as a perosn. For the last 2 years, I've been hitting the gym, got a huge promotion, been living with a DJ, bought a new car etc.

my game has not changed and yet the girls in my life are waaaay hotter than before.

in any case, i decided to start an experiment. i satrted hanging out with this one girl but i havent used any DJ game at all. no CF, no neg hits, nothing. just me being me.

and to be honst, its going just as well as with a girl i DO use CF with and whatever.


what do you guys think? is there something im overlooking? game seems like a way to demonstrate value, but you already have value, why do you need to show it off?

 

[mahoney]

being natural is always best

the game stuff isn't really to game the girl - its to discipline needy dudes from overly intense behavior

a fun interesting exciting person with stuff going for them doesn't need it

 

[Iceberg]

I think once you've gotten to the point where you've had success, and you're building confidence in yourself, you start to let go of "game" and all the rules that come with it.

You sort of develop a trust in yourself as to when you should drop a girl or when you should push more aggressively. What your style is. Etc, etc.

 

[garruk]

thansk to the responses guys. i really feel like im entering the next stage of being a DJ.

I'm gonna continue what ive been doing and see where it leads me. thanks again guys.

 

[garruk]

update: so i found out the girl was acutally rebounding off me from a previous relationship so im not sure what that does.

 

[Iceberg]

update: so i found out the girl was acutally rebounding off me from a previous relationship so im not sure what that does.


im pretty pissed and i feel like a tool. how can i get revengee!?!? lol

Why do you care what her purpose was? Her role in your life is a source of entertainment.

I think that the mistake a lot of guys make here is, they meet a nice girl and think about how to make her a girlfriend. Let the relationship part of things take care of itself. Your only goal with girls needs to be having fun.

Hell, I don't mind being a rebound...as long as i'm getting what i want from her. Which is good sex and good company.

The reason you're seeking "revenge" is because you tried to make things serious. My belief is, there are more important things to treat seriously than women.

 

[Mike32ct]

The whole point is to reach a point where you can be yourself. The game is just a bunch of tools to help guys that are struggling. Once you are the high value guy, you can do anything you want.

Slightly off topic, I think c&f is way overrated.

 

[garruk]

Why do you care what her purpose was? Her role in your life is a source of entertainment.

I think that the mistake a lot of guys make here is, they meet a nice girl and think about how to make her a girlfriend. Let the relationship part of things take care of itself. Your only goal with girls needs to be having fun.

Hell, I don't mind being a rebound...as long as i'm getting what i want from her. Which is good sex and good company.

The reason you're seeking "revenge" is because you tried to make things serious. My belief is, there are more important things to treat seriously than women.

you're totally right. i need to step back and reexamine.

 

[f283000]

in any case, i decided to start an experiment. i satrted hanging out with this one girl but i havent used any DJ game at all. no CF, no neg hits, nothing. just me being me.

and to be honst, its going just as well as with a girl i DO use CF with and whatever.


what do you guys think? is there something im overlooking? game seems like a way to demonstrate value, but you already have value, why do you need to show it off?

I'm not going to come here and tell guys they just need to be themselves because that's a lie. If that were the case women wouldn't be spitting on nice guy's faces while rushing off to bang criminals.

You have great value to like 99% of single women out there.

Good job = check
Driving a nice car = check
Confidence = check
Out of your mother's house = check
Going to the gym regularly and looking good = check

A guy in your situation doesn't necessarily need to be using game to attract women because you are definite boyfriend material. You can afford to be a little bit more yourself with women because you have your life in check.

HOWEVER, most guys don't have their life in check. So tools like C&F come in handy to bring our levels up in ways that we couldn't do otherwise (like having the good job, looking buff through gym training, driving the brand new car etc).

UPDATE
In situations like yours too much C&F can actually harm you by making women think you are beyond their league. You gotta realize that when you got your life in check as a man you're already above most women. A guy who's a professional with a decent income, good body through gym training and drives a nice car is equal or above any hb 8 or 9 at a club.

 

[garruk]

I'm not going to come here and tell guys they just need to be themselves because that's a lie. If that were the case women wouldn't be spitting on nice guy's faces while rushing off to bang criminals.

You have great value to like 99% of single women out there.

Good job = check
Driving a nice car = check
Confidence = check
Out of your mother's house = check
Going to the gym regularly and looking good = check

A guy in your situation doesn't necessarily need to be using game to attract women because you are definite boyfriend material. You can afford to be a little bit more yourself with women because you have your life in check.

HOWEVER, most guys don't have their life in check. So tools like C&F come in handy to bring our levels up in ways that we couldn't do otherwise (like having the good job, looking buff through gym training, driving the brand new car etc).

UPDATE
In situations like yours too much C&F can actually harm you by making women think you are beyond their league. You gotta realize that when you got your life in check as a man you're already above most women. A guy who's a professional with a decent income, good body through gym training and drives a nice car is equal or above any hb 8 or 9 at a club.

you're completely right and this is prety much my whole thought process behind it all.

however, im still having trouble cracking that top "1%" that speak of. because while im currently content with messing around with the easy club rats and girls impressed by my value, the girl that i eventually want to marry in 5 to 10 years, i dont want to settle on that and I want the best.

 

[garruk]

I'm not going to come here and tell guys they just need to be themselves because that's a lie. If that were the case women wouldn't be spitting on nice guy's faces while rushing off to bang criminals.

You have great value to like 99% of single women out there.

Good job = check
Driving a nice car = check
Confidence = check
Out of your mother's house = check
Going to the gym regularly and looking good = check

A guy in your situation doesn't necessarily need to be using game to attract women because you are definite boyfriend material. You can afford to be a little bit more yourself with women because you have your life in check.

HOWEVER, most guys don't have their life in check. So tools like C&F come in handy to bring our levels up in ways that we couldn't do otherwise (like having the good job, looking buff through gym training, driving the brand new car etc).

UPDATE
In situations like yours too much C&F can actually harm you by making women think you are beyond their league. You gotta realize that when you got your life in check as a man you're already above most women. A guy who's a professional with a decent income, good body through gym training and drives a nice car is equal or above any hb 8 or 9 at a club.

you're completely right and this is prety much my whole thought process behind it all.

however, im still having trouble cracking that top "1%" that speak of. because while im currently content with messing around with the easy club rats and girls impressed by my value, the girl that i eventually want to marry in 5 to 10 years, i dont want to settle on that and I want the best.

 

[Matthew Lyon]

a little while ago i made a post about how in the last year i just focused on developing my value as a perosn. For the last 2 years, I've been hitting the gym, got a huge promotion, been living with a DJ, bought a new car etc.

my game has not changed and yet the girls in my life are waaaay hotter than before.

in any case, i decided to start an experiment. i satrted hanging out with this one girl but i havent used any DJ game at all. no CF, no neg hits, nothing. just me being me.

and to be honst, its going just as well as with a girl i DO use CF with and whatever.


what do you guys think? is there something im overlooking? game seems like a way to demonstrate value, but you already have value, why do you need to show it off?

Nice observation. In my own opinion AND experience, game is for those who are too afraid or lack the confidence to be who they truly desire. In the end we just want to be accepted for who we are.

If you're not hearing women say, "I like you because you're real", "You seem very genuine" and compliments alike, then you're probably playing the game. Nobody wants to play the game and those who do are usually confused on how to be men/women.