Experienced DJs: How Do You Overcome Last Minute Resistance?

[Sofomore]

Title says it. My game is getting tighter and I am now making out with new girls every week. I'm 21 and the girls are giving me last minute resistance. Nearly naked on my bed, horny as hell, 4 different girls in the last month have said something like, "I can't do this" or "Those (panties) aren't coming off tonight". Basically saying "I am down to make out and have sex, but you have to wait."

I have tried freeze outs...doing something else, acting indifferent. Yet when I go for it again the girls are just as strict about me taking them off.

To those who experience this: how do you overcome it? These girls end up sleeping over because I don't want to be a ****, yet they aren't putting out on day 2. I'm not the type that would be like "Ok I am going to bed, I'll see you later" yet if so much last minute resistance continues, I may have to.

Thanks in advance.

 

[loveshogun]

You in a hurry? Just wondering.

So yeah, basically my advice is not to sweat it so much. You're obviously doing well enough to get them into bed. Sex will happen when it happens. Or, you know, if you decide to go the rapey route - not recommended.

 

[Sofomore]

Or, you know, if you decide to go the rapey route - not recommended.

I would never do that. I am just looking for one night stands, yet all of them are not.

 

[loveshogun]

So, I ask again - are you in such a hurry that you can't see any woman more than once? And are there so many waiting in line that you can't waste a single night?

I understand they might not be all that interesting, but hey - you're the one pickin' 'em.

Practical advice - I recommend not bringing them back to your place if you're pissed about them staying over. Go to their's so you can bounce if it gets awkward.

 

[Sofomore]

It's not about wasting a single night. You are taking this all the wrong way, and its actually kind of weird. Why are you asking all of these irrelevant questions about my life? I asked how EXPERIENCED DJs get around LMR.

Haha yea im not pissed about them staying over. I got a really bad case of blue balls last night because the girl was literally grabbing my c0ck, yet wouldn't go further. How do I avoid this?

 

[loveshogun]

Use a magic wand and turn her into a girl who doesn't "resist at the last minute"?

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but you've gotta realize that some women just don't put out on a first date. Not everyone is as horny as you or me. Some women, because they can, like to hold off on their options. Can't be helped. A lot of times, no really is no. That's why I put the rape joke up there.

So, if there's last minute resistance, it's because you weren't "f*ckable" at that time. Not trying to insult you dude, but you're kind of giving me a "hey, there's a problem and it's definitely not me" vibe. I hope you're not that type.

You asked how to get over it - go on a second round of drinks on a different night and prove your worth, because you're not getting it all right the first time.

I'm not really sure what else you're asking for. There's no magic bullet, no "Konami Code" of getting laid. Even if I tell you "put your hand here" and "be more persistent," or whatever, it won't work for you right now. You need more experience. If you need to make a road map, make your own - you're the one talking to these women. Imagine the kind of guy they'd f*ck, and then be that guy. If you're not willing to do that, move on.

So there you have it. I'm an experienced DJ. And I'm telling you that you need to be more experienced. That takes patience, persistence, and the ability to know when you need to grow.

Just my two cents. No disrespect.

Also, sometimes blue balls happen. No matter how good you are, there will be some woman out there who will not put out. Fact of life. Don't get so hung up on it, because if you do this early on in your jedi training, you'll never make it off these forums and into women's pants.

 

[EFFORT]

What sort of foreplay are you doing and for how long? When they give verbal resistance what do you say/do?

 

[Sofomore]

I see your point. With time and experience it will come naturally. I guess for now I just need to find out what works for me and what doesnt.

@ EFFORT: Kissing, touching her hair/neck/back, kissing her neck, rubbing her leg. If things heat up her shirt is off and i massage around her nips, occasional lick. I have found that taking off her underwear is where the struggle comes in.

When they give verbal resistance I say "OK" and go back to kissing or turn over and "sleep". I am actually indifferent to the interaction, but now after it has happened 4 times it is making me try to analyze what is going on.

 

[Masculinity]

OP: read this similar thread & my response: thread

Secondly, talk to the girl when she is in her underwear on your bed. They want to bang you, they just don't want you/people to see them as slvts. So tell her what she wants to hear: "shhh...it's okay. The way I see you/what I think about you won't change. It's all my fault ;] " or something like that. Personally, I dealt with this issue before by saying "we are not having sex" and after she stopped me again I said "if you say no one more time I'm leaving." She immediately let me do whatever I wanted to do to her.

 

[DefiantNature]

This sounds sneaky...

but just pull her panties off so quick that she doesn't have time to realize what you're up too.

Then just saying that you want to "touch it" and nothing else which will obviously lead to more.

I think you're thinking of game strategy too much instead of hand placement and removal speed :-D. Seriously though, all you have to do is grab it and yank really fast and they're off. Once they're off she's naked and nothing is stopping you from touching her vagina. this isn't "rapey" because she is making out with you half naked on a bed. She just wants you to make the move or say the magic words. "magic words" are different for every girl so i found that simply removing the panties before they realize it/have time to react to it is much easier.

What she's doing is giving herself "Plausible Deniability" meaning she can always tell herself and her friends that it wasn't her fault.

They're very protective of that area because just like us once it's seriously stimulated there isn't much they can do to stop themselves from having sex.

I've always just said that all I wanted to do was touch it and make her feel good. and "I just want to make you happy" Or "We're not going to have sex" "trust me we're on the same page" etc.

 

[Sofomore]

So the first poster says I'm a rapist and the last says to take off her underwear before she can say anything.

Even before the underwear comes off I can see the girls thinking "I want to fvck but don't know if it's a good idea"

Literally seconds later, I hear "We can't do this" or something along those lines. I think I am going to start saying "We aren't having sex".

 

[DefiantNature]

So the first poster says I'm a rapist and the last says to take off her underwear before she can say anything.

Even before the underwear comes off I can see the girls thinking "I want to fvck but don't know if it's a good idea"

Literally seconds later, I hear "We can't do this" or something along those lines. I think I am going to start saying "We aren't having sex".

hahaha, yeah. I'm just sharing what I learned was the easiest for me personally.

Just be glad you're getting that type of response as opposed to "I would talk to this guy but he seems like a fag"

 

[Jariel]

I've had girls say this to me, but I just get them so horny they can't help themselves.

It's also important to a lot of girls that they don't feel like a slvt or don't feel like they've given it up too easily. So you have to play along with that. Instead of acting bothered by it or viewing her as a c0ck tease, just say something like "There's no rush" and just continue kissing and fooling around.

You can use kissing to really turn her on. Press your body against hers, crotch to crotch so she's rubbing against you. When you kiss, lightly lick her tongue, her lips and gently bite on her lower lip. Look seductively into her eyes, caress her neck (very lightly) and pull gently on her hair. You will feel her getting turned on. When she starts breathing heavily, pushing herself against you, then try kissing/licking/nibbling her neck and ears and you're as good as laid at this point. Just let your hands start wandering...

I've been in public with women who have given me the "I'm not a slvt" speech, but after kissing in this way they often beg me to take them in the back of a car or wherever we can get some privacy.

 

[Serg897]

I've had girls say this to me, but I just get them so horny they can't help themselves.

This. Just laugh it off and continue kissing/carressing various places of her body, and doing things to turn her on. The LMR will disappear. I have done this successfully more than once.

You have to understand that the only reason why they do this is this societal nonsense about them being "sluts" if they give it up too easily. If you acknowledge this and hesitate you wont get laid.

 

[loveshogun]

So the first poster says I'm a rapist and the last says to take off her underwear before she can say anything.

I never said you were a rapist. I said that if you do something like what that guy just told you, you're a "sexual batterer." Which can sometimes be referred to as a rapist.

Anyway, there are lots of little tricks, but if you're 4/4 on not getting laid these past couple weeks, AND you admitted you're kinda new to this, I would just take it easy and keep upping your value by becoming awesome.

Or, you know, you could pants the girl and yell "surprise!" Yeah. That totally sounds legit.

 

[st_99]

I've had girls say this to me, but I just get them so horny they can't help themselves.

Basically this. If a girl is on your bed nearly naked there is almost no reason to not have sex. Almost every girl i've been with has shown some form of LMR. Just keep kissing her, rubbing, etc.. get her wet and its on. No biggie.

Afterwords you'll get "i don't normally do that" or "that wasn't supposed to happen" Silly girls.

 

[Sofomore]

See the thing is I am getting them wet and horny, yet they still resist. After the fourth "no" I stop and just pass out.

 

[Sofomore]

Very normal. Very common for chicks to do this. And I think it's important to limit the effort on your part. There's a fine line between being persistent and acting sex-starved. The latter will, of course, repel chicks like a bad odor.

Let them walk if they won't put out.

Good advice. On the first girl I kept trying and trying and I'm pretty sure it came off desperate.

 

[st_99]

See the thing is I am getting them wet and horny, yet they still resist. After the fourth "no" I stop and just pass out.

In that case perhaps the freeze out method may be in your best interest. If you're rubbing snatch and she's wet and STILL wont have sex, I'd throw the b*tch out and tell her to go f*ck a goat.

I've actually done something similar to that. I went out for a night on the town with a FB and afterwords she stopped in to my place to "use the bathroom". So she did, then i offered her a drink, hugged up on her, etc.. but she resisted and clearly wasn't interested. I grabber her by the arm, lead her to the door and literally threw her a$$ out. I was just straight rude and mean.

The next day she was down! hahaha. True story.

 

[f283000]

It's also important to a lot of girls that they don't feel like a slvt or don't feel like they've given it up too easily. So you have to play along with that. Instead of acting bothered by it or viewing her as a c0ck tease, just say something like "There's no rush" and just continue kissing and fooling around.

You can use kissing to really turn her on. Press your body against hers, crotch to crotch so she's rubbing against you. When you kiss, lightly lick her tongue, her lips and gently bite on her lower lip. Look seductively into her eyes, caress her neck (very lightly) and pull gently on her hair. You will feel her getting turned on. When she starts breathing heavily, pushing herself against you, then try kissing/licking/nibbling her neck and ears and you're as good as laid at this point. Just let your hands start wandering...

THIS!

If you become a master at making out then there is nothing they can do to stop you. They'll be soaking wet before you even go in

The key is really simple...KEEP AT IT BECAUSE IF YOU DO SHE WILL GET LOST IN THE MOMENT AND HER DEFENSES WILL COME CRUSHING DOWN!

That's basically the key you just have to keep at it. I'm not talking about french kissing her for 30 seconds then trying to get her panties off like most guys do. This needs to be minutes long foreplay/makeout session. I'm talking about 5-10 minutes or more. You have to take her on a rollercoaster of emotions and feelings to the point she doesn't want it to stop.

Don't let her stop you. If you take a breather go back for another kiss and keep at it. You need to keep your hands moving all over her body, grab her butt, pinch it, own it, your crotch rubbing against her real tight, then make forward movements with your crotch as if you were doing her missionary.

The last part is the key. Once you are holding her real tight with your crotch rubbing against her for a couple minutes as you make out she won't even care when you start doing forward motions as if you were hitting that p____ missionary style. Do it in a slow, sensual way.

If you get to the part where you are simulating the missionary position then it's game over for her. She'll be dying for the pants to come off to get the real thing.

The reason why this works is simple. You held her tight with your crotch up against her for a couple of minute as you make out so you are conditioning her right here for sex. She feeling your d___ already and getting used to it. That makes it more likely she will accept you simulating the missionary position with her and once that happens in her mind she is as good as ready.