"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Example of Why buying gifts doesn't work

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I was talking to this girl yesterday, who 'kinda liked' a guy, but wasn't sure if she'd label him 'relationship' material, or 'just friends' material.
She also knows that guy likes her (a LOT!)

Now, they've been texting and calling to eachother for some time (since they live 100 km from eachother and they don't have ways of transportation except train.)
So they finally agreed to visit...the guy comes over to her...they had a great time, and they even threw in some kissing and making out.

Anyhow...couple of days later...she texts him saying that this'll be the last message since she's out of money (she calls prepaid)

So what did the guy do?
Sends her 3 messages with codes for new credit (you know, you buy a card, scratch the stuff away to find a code, you send that code to a number and get new credits)

Next day I talk to her, she tells me that, and when I asked her how she felt about that guy, she was totally unattracted.

Thought I'd share this:D
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It is dependent on a lot of thing namely who is giving the gift. If a strong, in control man gives a woman a gift just to give a gift its fine. If however a *****y guy gives a woman a gift because he really ants to talk to her on the phone then its not fine.

It is also dependent on the gift itself, the nature of the gift, the timing. That guy is a loser and he should not have done that but gifts are not all bad all the time.
 

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Ok...

so if gifts aren't necessarily a bad thing, where would you draw the line?

Are necklaces with your name on it a no-go, or is it safe to give as long as you're a stable guy?
 

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There was this playah, a successful guy in his 40ties. And he met this chick over the internet, somehow. She apperantely did not have a picture because she did not have a camera.

She described herself to him.

He send her a camera so she could take a pic. Results were astonishing, she really tried.

He ended up meeting her and fvcking her.

The next day she left a :D on his myspace comments.



Purpose here is for him to find out if she's cute before meeting her. He's not desparate at all, if he was he'd take her words for her looks and meet up with her. Right?!
 

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Tho sending a camera to a complete stranger is not really smart;)
This action did have a funny side to it. It wasn't about the gift itself, more about 'forcing' her to show him how she looks like...+ this move is pretty funny
plus, since he didn't know her, it also shows her that he is taking spontaneous moves, which is a good thing.

The guy giving credits to the girl, wasn't giving them so they could resume talking, it was just because she told him she was out of credits and had no money. He 'felt sorry for her'/wanted to show her how good and friendly he was (aka buying love). Also, he knew her already, so it wasn't a bold move, but more of an :moon: kissing move
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Pants kissing move?


His style is like so. He'd show you some good jesture, or good times. Then he backs off. You gotta qualify yourself to him. All his interactions with men and women is to put the other person down - but not bluntely. Unless you know how to read the language, you wouldn't be able to tell, except that there is something there, something that makes you want to qualify yourself to him. Make them qualify. Always ****y. Territorial spontaneous. All that crap.

I learned some of my game from him.
 
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