"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ex wants to fvck

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Wut up?

I broke up with her a while ago, and get these late night drunk text messages that she wants me to come over for the night. What would you do? (yet she told me a while back she wants to enjoy the single life) Give her what she wants?

I'd like to get back with her- eventually.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'd say no. If you'd like to get back with her, you obviously have feelings for her. Having feelings for a FWB is only going to hurt you/set you back.Be the bigger guy here. You want a relationship, she doesnt' Go out and find a girl that can provide for your needs. This girl can't
 

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Excellent.

Use her as a fvck buddy but yeah make her work for it and what I mean is have her come over to your place if that is more convenient for you.
 

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lol I see a lot of you are quick to jump on this.

Oh yes i'd LOVE to sleep with her, however I know she's been physical with other guys. (Like the other day I saw a hickey on her neck) She's called me about 6 times, i'd say once a week with this same late night phone call, looking for me around 2-2:30 AM. Being very flirty, etc...

Was thinking about this though, could it be possible she was WITH a guy, they did the dirty; he leaves and now she calls ME? (I'm about an hour from her)

If this is the case i'm not some punk who will slip in bed to cuddle with her once her physical partner leaves after sex. This could be a possibility, but I don't think so.

If I had no feelings for her i'd just do it, however I do: and want to do the do the correct thing that will lead her back to me
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DJSavvy said:
lol I see a lot of you are quick to jump on this.

Oh yes i'd LOVE to sleep with her, however I know she's been physical with other guys. (Like the other day I saw a hickey on her neck) She's called me about 6 times, i'd say once a week with this same late night phone call, looking for me around 2-2:30 AM. Being very flirty, etc...

Was thinking about this though, could it be possible she was WITH a guy, they did the dirty; he leaves and now she calls ME? (I'm about an hour from her)

If this is the case i'm not some punk who will slip in bed to cuddle with her once her physical partner leaves after sex. This could be a possibility, but I don't think so.

If I had no feelings for her i'd just do it, however I do: and want to do the do the correct thing that will lead her back to me
You need to be a little more honest with yourself.

You say you have no feelings for her, however you want to "lead her back" to you.

Obviously you still have some feelings deep down for her.

What does it matter if she slept with other guys? She just wants to f*ck right? They did invent condoms for a reason.

Any other girl you're going to meet and f*ck has MOST LIKELY had sex with another "punk", so get over it. Women f*ck plenty of men and it's up to you whether you wan to f*ck plenty of women.

If you can't leave your emotions at the table when sexing this girl, then don't do it. Getting this chick back is futile. There is a reason you two broke up and there's really nothing to do now except reap the benefits of her lack of sexual activity from others.

As far as this whole cuddling thing goes, cuddle with her if you want to be her new best friend. If you want to be her new slab of meat that she wants a piece of every weekend, sex her, keep your distance emotionally, and don't let her manipulate you into falling back down the relationship pipeline. She will WANT to make it seem like she wants something again. She will ask you to cuddle, go out to dinner, blah, blah, blah. As soon as you start doing these things, she will leave you again (eventually). It's a great confidence booster for women to know they can manipulate us and then spit us out like garbage. Don't let it happen.
 

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I never said I had no feelings for her, I said in the original post that I want to get back with her; sure I could go out with other girls, and I have been; but i always end up thinking of the ex. If you're going to reply with just a "**** other girls comment please don't bother" People get back together with their exes all the time, I've realized what went wrong in the relationship, and know what to do. Just don't want to end up an emotional tampon or a 'friend' from all my efforts.

You guys are DJ's! The ex wants to be physical with me, again i'd LOVE to jump back in bed with her; i'm working hard to lead her back to me, BUT is the fact that she's being physical with others while i'm 'casually dating' her a dealbreaker? If i just started dating a girl who I did not have a history with had marks on her neck from another, i'd walk!

Seems like progress is being made here if she calls me for this??? Just want to play it right
 

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DJSavvy said:
I never said I had no feelings for her, I said in the original post that I want to get back with her; sure I could go out with other girls, and I have been; but i always end up thinking of the ex. If you're going to reply with just a "**** other girls comment please don't bother" People get back together with their exes all the time, I've realized what went wrong in the relationship, and know what to do. Just don't want to end up an emotional tampon or a 'friend' from all my efforts.

You guys are DJ's! The ex wants to be physical with me, again i'd LOVE to jump back in bed with her; i'm working hard to lead her back to me, BUT is the fact that she's being physical with others while i'm 'casually dating' her a dealbreaker? If i just started dating a girl who I did not have a history with had marks on her neck from another, i'd walk!

Seems like progress is being made here if she calls me for this??? Just want to play it right
I apologize I misread the fact you still have something for this chick..

Anyways man, there is only so much we can tell you, but ultimately it's up to you. If you want to get back with your ex then that's your priority.

But realize that your receiving advice from individuals who have been through all this BS with ex's and hickeys and past partners, etc.

You're right, ex's get back together all the time and breakup all the time also. Bottom line is, just because you want to get back into this relationship doesn't mean your ex wants to. She's obviously hooking up with other men and hopefully you're hooking up with other women.

"Trying" to get her interested again is a fool's game. The one who puts forth the most effort in relationships and "trys" to make the other intimate with them usually leave the relationship with the most emotional baggage.

If she just wants to bone for now, then just do it. If things start going well, then so be it. But don't fall into the trap of "trying" to make things work. If things are meant to work, they will work out naturally. You shouldn't be the one doing the legwork here to solidify things again.
 

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Good point dude...

What's meant to happen will, we can't control everything. When I mean try, I mean asking her out to do things suggested on these forums when we first started dating, taking her out of her comfort zone and showing her a good time. Thats what I mean by try, take her out SHOW her a good time, txt to see whats up, and keep things fun. I know she's attracted/interested, and I know I have her emotionally...and from these late night drunk txts i hope this is a sign that this is correct.

I'm basically 'casually dating' an ex, hoping to get back. It's dangerous turf, especially because there's no commitment. Thing is, would you be concerned about the others?
 

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DJSavvy said:
Good point dude...

What's meant to happen will, we can't control everything. When I mean try, I mean asking her out to do things suggested on these forums when we first started dating, taking her out of her comfort zone and showing her a good time. Thats what I mean by try, take her out SHOW her a good time, txt to see whats up, and keep things fun. I know she's attracted/interested, and I know I have her emotionally...and from these late night drunk txts i hope this is a sign that this is correct.

I'm basically 'casually dating' an ex, hoping to get back. It's dangerous turf, especially because there's no commitment. Thing is, would you be concerned about the others?
Why did you break up with her in the first place?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This is what you gotta do, this would be awesome. Tell a girl to meet you at your house, but really you give the adress of your ex, tell her to meet you there at "x" time, be there at "x" time, play your cards right and you may get a three way, if not at least a good laugh.
 
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