"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Ex texted me out of no where

Joined
Nov 3, 2005
Messages
183
Reaction score
1
My ex girlfriend texted me after we've been split up for 3-4 months already literally out of no where. She said hi and wanted to see how things were going with me. I can't lie and say that I wouldn't want anything with her. Is this even worth responding to?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

DonJuan11

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 16, 2007
Messages
1,667
Reaction score
35
Social_disturbance said:
My ex girlfriend texted me after we've been split up for 3-4 months already literally out of no where. She said hi and wanted to see how things were going with me. I can't lie and say that I wouldn't want anything with her. Is this even worth responding to?
I can't lie and say that I wouldn't want anything with her. Enough double negatives in this sentence?

You say "Hi, things are well with me. How is everything with you?"
 

hondo928

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 17, 2008
Messages
89
Reaction score
0
LOL, this happened to me last week...makes me think no matter what I do they all come back. Sure she wasn't drunk, if you can just bone her and move on
 

MoneyManHolmes

Don Juan
Joined
Mar 19, 2003
Messages
31
Reaction score
0
Age
41
Location
Kansas
DonJuan11 said:
I can't lie and say that I wouldn't want anything with her. Enough double negatives in this sentence?

You say "Hi, things are well with me. How is everything with you?"
It's called a litote IMO.
 

AFC Championship

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 5, 2008
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
My reply...

"Ha ha, couldn't control yourself, could you? Yes, I'm that damn good. :)"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

tony-montana

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 2, 2007
Messages
363
Reaction score
1
my ex gf did that with me after i dumped her. kept calling me and texting me. soon she got the hint. i kept ending the phone calls early. she stopped calling after a couple months. it's all up to you if you wanna get laid. i wouldnt start dating them again though. they are your ex for a reason.
 

Mavrick

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 1, 2008
Messages
902
Reaction score
43
DonJuan11 said:
I can't lie and say that I wouldn't want anything with her. Enough double negatives in this sentence?

Please explain to me where the double negatives are in that sentence. Are you sure you know what a double negative is (e.g. "I don't have no time")?
 

SomethingClever

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
73
Reaction score
2
Location
Chicago
She wants your one-eyed monster. Plain and simple
 

aix237

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 10, 2005
Messages
291
Reaction score
2
Age
46
Yea. I've been in arguments said fd up sh1t basically go fvck urself stuff and sooner or later I get a call or text "hey what r u doing?" im like uh ok. I usually jusr find out what they want. If they don't want what iwant them to want then I say see ya when I see ya
 

HBK

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 6, 2002
Messages
569
Reaction score
6
Im always curious about the differences betweek European and American women. Being from europe, women tend to cower behind their phones. I know heaps of guys who have been dumped by Text. Women find it the easiet and most cowardly way to contact and break up with men. I know i have been there. Im america men and women seem to talk alot more by phone. Whats after happening to the lost art of conversation????
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

tony-montana

Senior Don Juan
Joined
May 2, 2007
Messages
363
Reaction score
1
my lady friend was telling me just a few weeks ago that she broke up with the guy on msn cause it's easier :p
 

Fallen

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 18, 2003
Messages
94
Reaction score
1
Location
Europe
Of course it's worth responding. And it should be done something like this.

I too always ask myself, why they always seem to come back. Either for your attention/company, for not feeling guilty about dumping you in the first place or because of the best sex they ever had.


@HBK: Guess it all depends on the girl. I think it won'T make a big difference where you live. People in general becoming more superficial these times. Companies firing employees by email or have them escorted out of the building without their bosses ever showing up. I heard of people who learned in the news that their job and their company is gone. Most people avoid unpleasant things.

Been dumped by email, by SMS. In my younger years ( pre-cellphone and pre-www ) by a friend of hers telling me on the phone. However i have also been given the classic "Dear John" letter. A face-to-face conversation ( or monologue ) is the rare case.

I'm not much of a dumper. Guess i'm too slow. But whenever it was necessary, i did it face-to-face.
 

slickaz

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
691
Reaction score
28
they come back because theyre comfortable..
theyve had s3x with you before, theyre comfortable with you already, and they much prefer not getting themselves off..so they come back and use you...
ive asked my ex when she came back, she said mainly because she didnt feel like a slut sleepin around, and she came back to get some good much needed s3x....i said fair nuf..least she was honest..
 

decades

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 3, 2004
Messages
1,223
Reaction score
35
Location
sf ca
hmmm right on schedule...
 
Top