"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Ex (oneitis) stays with abusive boyfriend

LuckyStrike88

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Alright so i've probably made a mistake but i couldn't help myself. Been in contact with met ex (oneitis) again, i did not contact her but she contacted me and invited me over a couple of times now for 1 month. I usually get in late and stay through the night up until dawn until i decide to leave. She's my ex and because of her boyfriend no intimacy, but yeah we can do that talk for hours on end and keep it interesting without much silences. Very upbeat and fun girl to be around and yeah i actually do have fun with her regardless of there being intimacy.

Anyhow she is bored, complains about her boyfriend. He used to live in with her but now pulls back to his parents house more often. They get in fights, he sleeps and eats at her place but barely support her financially or cleans up. Lying about stuff. When there he hangs out at her place, probably bangs her and plays his Xbox. And when they get into a fight and mister doesn't like it he picks up his Xbox and walks out. Lies about stuff to her and refuses to help her with any problems she might have. I understand they don't see each other that much anymore either 1 maybe 2 times a week.

Of course a lot of alpha in there doing whatever the hell he wants, she complains about it but doesn't leave him for it. Seems like a clear cut case of women not knowing what they want but showing what they want by staying with such guys.

Kept her from complaining about him or doing anything that puts me into the girlfriend role. Just hanging talking with her for my enjoyment nothing more or less. But yeah i wonder if i should do anything more than this or keep her as a low key friend.

I am not desperate to get her back but i do know it could potentially be a very good one for me as we connect on a lot of levels. When i used to roll with her i was pretty much AFC but have polished up a lot since then, i can see she notices, respects me and enjoys having me around but where to go from here... Any suggestions?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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zorg198

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So basically you became her emotional tampon.

jeeez due what the fvck is wrong with you? there is a reason why she's an ex! why you keep yourself involved with matters like this?
 

LuckyStrike88

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zorg198 said:
So basically you became her emotional tampon.

jeeez due what the fvck is wrong with you? there is a reason why she's an ex! why you keep yourself involved with matters like this?
That's how it started out the first time i saw her indeed that's how i know about her boyfriend problems. After that i told her to keep those problems between him and her and she hasn't complained about it since. I know very well how to keep myself out of the tampon area, nasty things. Right now it's just having fun fooling around teasing, actually some sexual tension without breaking any rules. It can actually be enjoyable, if you have female friends you know what i'm talking about. As long as you don't get attached all is okay.

I'm not explicitly involved on a beta mission to get her back, that's not it. If anything i enjoy just being friends with her without being emotionally invested in an outcome, and keeping a possible future option open in the process.
 

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I think for your own sake to pull back and stick to NC. no matter what you think those emotion will rise again and you will get rejected once she will sort out her issues....

Joe.
 

LuckyStrike88

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zorg198 said:
I think for your own sake to pull back and stick to NC. no matter what you think those emotion will rise again and you will get rejected once she will sort out her issues....

Joe.
It maybe is a wise and safe thing to go NC in a situation like this where there is threat emotions could come back, but as long as i don't feel that threat i see no reason to drop her just like that. I am actually on good terms with her and i enjoy having both male and female friends. Having female (just)friends is good for you and can be stepping stones to meeting other women as well. The girlfriend i had after her i actually met at her place, were all in this social circle. It's good times.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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El Payaso

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The time spent wasting on this girl that you "connect with on so many levels" could be better spent on another girl out there who will not only suck you dry and keep your balls drained but will also "connect with you on other levels".

Stop wasting your time with this loser and hanging around in the hopes that she might throw you some pity pu$$y. You will not admit it but deep down, you know I'm right.
 

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LuckyStrike88 said:
When i used to roll with her i was pretty much AFC but have polished up a lot since then
Looks like you are in need of a new polish. You are an AFC with a oneitis for an ex. Why don't you be the alpha doing what you want? You're the beta getting nothing from her. The abusive boyfriend is banging her. Hit the road Jack.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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LuckyStrike88

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nismo-4 said:
Alpha lays, beta stays. Guess which one you are?

Go ghost dammit.
Thanks bros, have given it some thought based on these kind of juicy comments. Even though i do not feel directly desperate or sad to have her, i do seem distracted. Oneitis tends to bring in a form of justification and denial that i must be aware of. I am pulling out, should know better than to make her feel better and fill in the need gaps her bf is not willing to fulfill. And right he is.

Moving on. In contact with a new broad thinking about asking her out on a date, seems like a quality woman without problems.
 
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