Everything you say is scripted

[Casino]

Cas is up late and I've got some thoughts bouncing around in my head after an exhausting night of sarging, observing social interactions and having a good time. I want to kick around a few ideas.

Here at sosuave scripts are frowned upon for the most part. The mantra "just be yourself" and/or let the conversation flow gets brought up a lot.

Well, I got to thinking and accessed something from my past sales training that makes tons of sense.

EVERYTHING IS A SCRIPT.

Hi, my name is so and so is a script

David Bowie routine is a script

In sales training the instructor would tell us when you go up to a customer and say "How may I help you" they socially conditioned to reply with "I'm just looking" Instead they taught us other ways to approch customers so that they couldn't revert back to that conditioned answer. "How may I help you" is a SCRIPT that doesnt work. On the contrary, "HI, my name is Shawn and you are" is a good opening script that works in SALES. You are litterally controlling what that persons repsonse will be. The power of our words is a amazing.

Now when approching women if you listen to a lot of these guys on SoSuave that tell your to be yourself you will probably just have a few openers. Now, most of these openers every AFC in the world already does so the women has a conditioned response to it.

I hear alot of people advocate saying "Hi, whats up" or other really simple common openers.

RULE 1 - Never ask a girl a question to where she can give a ONE WORD response. Her - Nothing. You - Uh, ok cool..bye..

That is why I know CANNED material is so useful. And I'm not going to get into the various canned material but it isn't hard to find the field tested stuff that really works.

www.bristollair.com has tons of it.

See, there are the scripts that don't work and the ones that do. The ones that don't generally set the girl up for conditioned responses or phrases. When you start using scripts that are proven you will be able to control and funnel the girls thought process. It will give you the control of the interaction and display higher value and uniqueness.

I know you guys have it in you to do this. Now get researching them scripts. Now go work on a GREAT OPENER. Say it. Memorize it. Record yourself.

NO FILLER. All KILLER.

 

[Bradshaw]

Good post. I completely agree.

I don’t know why so many people on this forum think that if you have ‘outer game’ (or scripts as it were) that you MUST be compensating for the fact that you do not have you inner game handled.

I’ve said this before, but hell, I’ll say it again:
outer game is not the antithesis of inner game. You can, and should, have both.

Whenever I read posts by people who bash a lot of the mASF stuff, and scripts, opinion openers, etc., it just makes me thinks that they are Keyboard jockeys with minimal field experience. If you use this stuff in the field (and are congruent because you got your inner game handled first) it works great.

 

[bbestar]

YOU RIGHT!!!!


Id tell these be yourselfers to click their heels 3 times.... and go back to africa..

THATS RIGHT!!

 

[naoi deag se deag]

Awesome post man. WRITE A BOOK ALREADY!

 

[Tyron]

I agree with your post even if it doesnt bring any new ideas just summarizes old ones. "Scripts" will give you confidence and make approaching girls easier for sure . But I think when you have the Inner game you can make your own scripts and you really don't need "jokes" or whatever after the first openers, the conversation will flow on its own. The thing in "scripts" is that you have to "get it" (quote david) to often make them work proberly. If you don't "get it" you're just one of those chumps who has tried to hit the girl all night.

 

[h2o]

you know...for a while, i was always about "being yourself," etc...and i still sort of am. but i've realized that you can't attract the hb9+ girls without some material

well, i'm personally like an 8/10 myself, so be honest with yourself...i'm thin too...so i know who i can / cannot approach. you should know this, because you'll be more successful if you acknowledge it.

anyway, to up my ease of pickups from hb6-8s up to hb9+ girls, i definitely either need to gain a lot more weight and work on my body, or learn some material. it's easier to learn material...i'd just been a bit hesitant too. i'm working on my body too, but that's a slow process, and it's about me, not for girls...so i'm doing it the right way, bulking cleanly.

another thing is that i notice that sometimes when i do tons of approaches back to back...like last night at the club, sometimes i start opening with the same stuff over again. and i wasn't using lines/material or anything ...it's just the basic fluff talk was getting repetitive.

but it's a good observation that fluff talk gets so repetitive that it might as well be scripted canned material...anyone who does approaches like me would know this.

so, i might read up on a few good openers, just to have some backup arsenal, when things get repetitive.

most places verbal communication makes for like 30% of vibing...in the club i think it could be like 5-10% because body language etc is so much more significant. so these openers will be better to know for places other than clubs or bars. but even in clubs/bars, there are times when you could do better if you just had a better opener.

i didn't have a great one last night...just having fun and saying the same sh*t over and over. it was okay, but i think i could be more successful if i had one or two good openers.

good tip.

 

[pulp_fiction]

I agree as well. I remember one time I was talking to this girl online, and I thought I was doing a pretty good job of being subtle with my "game", when all of a sudden she busts out "I cant believe how many lines you have". At the time I rebuffed her comment, but after she logged off I looked through the conversation again, and like 75% of what I said were all lines i'd used before or have used afterward. Even my refutation to her statement was a line! We all rehearse before the phone calls, rehearse before the approaches, etc.

Definitely agree.

 

[i am me]

Maybe it works for where you guys are at......but for highschoolers like me, I can tell it WON'T WORK

 

[Inc. ©]

I have to say this is the first defense of masf that I'm actually gonna buy. It makes perfect sense. I had spoken to a few salespeople the past few weeks and I noticed how they did control my answers to a lot of questions. Actually, I've got the sales cycle in front of me so I'll post it:

1. Build Rapport
2. Probe for Needs
3. Sell to their needs
4. Objections
5. Close

Well, dating is a bit different obviously, but you could loosely build a script based off that.

I think it's just important to remember a few lines, though, to get her to open up, then rely on your personality.

 

[nishbuk]

Originally posted by Inc. �
I have to say this is the first defense of masf that I'm actually gonna buy. It makes perfect sense. I had spoken to a few salespeople the past few weeks and I noticed how they did control my answers to a lot of questions. Actually, I've got the sales cycle in front of me so I'll post it:

1. Build Rapport
2. Probe for Needs
3. Sell to their needs
4. Objections
5. Close

Well, dating is a bit different obviously, but you could loosely build a script based off that.

I think it's just important to remember a few lines, though, to get her to open up, then rely on your personality.

Well I dunno. Dating seems almost exactly like that with one change:

1. Build Rapport
2. Probe for yours and her needs
3. Sell to her needs, make sure she's selling to yours
4. Objections
5. Close