"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Everyone Votes Today: Two paths.

Which path would you take?

  • I would definately roll with PUA

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • I will be better off being a natural

    Votes: 19 65.5%

  • Total voters
    29

Oxide

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Ok guys, there is a thing that interests me..

Imagine two paths in front of you right now. Starting from this day, you could either be an amazing Pick up artist, scoring with many girls and "getting into girls heads" but you had to rely on strategy at all times, no matter where you were and when. However, you would not obsess over women, and not worry about getting into One-itis.

On the other hand, you could be a natural. You would forget of ever coming to this site. You would never need to think about any specific strategies. However, this means your knowledge would be limited, meaning your results would probably would be worse than those of a PUA. You would also be more open to getting hurt by women, since you dont know all the information a PUA does. You will be more likely to have a One-itis.


Which path would you follow?


*This is for experimental purposes only. Please do not overthink.
We are not here to judge you. ;)
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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diplomatic_lie

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If you have to constantly think over your strategy when trying to pick up a woman, you're not a DJ (or PUA, or ABC, or whatever).

Obviously you have to think a bit before you do anything, but you shouldn't be breaking a sweat.
 

Climax

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Took the words out of my mouth...

Originally posted by diplomatic_lie
If you have to constantly think over your strategy when trying to pick up a woman, you're not a DJ (or PUA, or ABC, or whatever).

Obviously you have to think a bit before you do anything, but you shouldn't be breaking a sweat.
 
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This post is too biased. There was nothing good about being a natural in that paragraph you wrote.
 

TyTe`EyEs

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Originally posted by A&F Brand Cologne
This post is too biased. There was nothing good about being a natural in that paragraph you wrote.

Took the words right out of my mouth.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Oxide

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Haha, well guys if i made natural sound better everyone would vote for him, there would not be a single PUA out there ;)

diplomatic_lie... arent scripts and 99% of MASF teach you exactly what to do when you are with a woman?


The way i see this is a natural guy is just a regular dude who can attract and possibly keep women a little better than the next guy. This doesnt mean that he is sheltered from rejection, cheating and deceit... he isnt a superman afterall.


Then there is a PUA. This guy is like a R2D2 with a checklist in mind: Approach a set, open, ignore the target, touch the target's hip.. isolate... rinse and repeat.
PUA's feelings for the girl arent as great, so he shakes the failures off with ease. However, he seldom finds it in his heart the feelings to actually like the girl and enjoy her beyond sex.
 

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Haha, some perverse part of me LIKES making these essential acts into a science of sorts, so I'd go with the PUA stylez.

About the naturals thing...have you guys noticed any actual naturals on this board? Could you point me to one? :p
 

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i don't think it's a good question.

all those PUAs try to do basically is LOOK AT NATURALS and figure out why women flock to them. then they try to deconstruct it (i.e. natural makes a ****y joke then hooks up with the girl, PUA observes & writes down "****y & funny = good"

when it comes down to it, every PUA is a wannabe natural. while picking up is a strategic thing for PUAs, to naturals it's an ordinary thing, like breathing. they dont have to think about it, they don't have to overanalyze, they just get anything they want.

so yeah, id rather be a natural.
 

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I chose PuA based on your descriptions.

You would also be more open to getting hurt by women, since you dont know all the information a PUA does. You will be more likely to have a One-itis.
2 things I wouldn't want.
 
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