"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Everybody hit the floor!

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Right, on saturday night I went out to one of two clubs on my local area with a few friends, two of which have GF's and the other two which are very shy, do i decided to try and chat some girls up on my own. This failed, miserably, everyone was taken or just not interested. So i saw this girl on the dancefloor, and my 3 second rule turned into a 3 minute rule, at which point I saw about 4 guys go up to her and dance, but without seemingly doing anything wrong they left as if she had told them to get lost, even though she seemed quite happy to dance with them, maybe they were just intimidated, she was probably an HB9.

So i thought, well fvck it, I'll give it a shot myself, danced with her a little and then got the same feeling, she's not interested.

So what would you guys have done in this situaution, I couldn't really pull any lines on her because it would kinda be interupting her dancing, plus it's very loud so my words would probably just get lost in the mumbo jumbo r'n'b music.

She did smile when she saw me outside the club but it was more awkward then flirty.

So guys, how do you handle girls on the dancefloor.

P.s. I'll just add that I dance like my mom but better, side steps but just a bit more upbeat, and i get the shoulders involved, its hard to describe without seeing me, but girls in general dance better, whereas I feel terrible.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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That depends what club it was in Leeds doesn't it :) try Oceana etc if you want the slags ;)

But seriously...Most of my success in clubs is chatting the birds up in the smoking area rather than the old-school (and kinda lame) shuffling up to them whilst dancing. I do that kind of stuff at 2.30 when them and me are wasted as fvck.
 

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shaunuk said:
That depends what club it was in Leeds doesn't it :) try Oceana etc if you want the slags ;)

But seriously...Most of my success in clubs is chatting the birds up in the smoking area rather than the old-school (and kinda lame) shuffling up to them whilst dancing. I do that kind of stuff at 2.30 when them and me are wasted as fvck.
Nah this was back in Bury when I went back for the weekend. I tend to go Oceana Halo or tiger tiger when I'm in leeds. I like to chat up in Oceana because its usually packed and so I can try to sarge a lot. What days do you tend to go? Wednesdays are good for students ;D
 

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I used to go to Oceana a lot, monday and/or wednesday, but now that I'm an old man (3rd year) I choose clubs more carefully. I go to Mission a lot on thursdays because of that smoking area/bar area. Usually pull at least every other time from there because you can talk a lot. In the other rooms it's just daft sh1t like pulling girls off the stage etc. It probably helps to look the part in the other rooms (i.e. rave paint, all that dumb sh1t), dance like a fvcking mad man and pull the girls when everyone starts getting drunk.

I go to ****pit as well, stand outside in the smoking area/road and talk to girls there.

So basically my main club approach is to talk to girls in decent places (smoking area, quieter rooms), then as the night cracks on, I'll grind on some random birds. Eventually it turns into a numbers game, and if the numbers are right, you'll score often enough.

You at uni or met? :p
 

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You should feel the same whether she's interested or not.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"I'll just add that I dance like my mom but better"

I don't know what that is supposed to mean but it sounds hilarious.
 

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shaunuk said:
I used to go to Oceana a lot, monday and/or wednesday, but now that I'm an old man (3rd year) I choose clubs more carefully. I go to Mission a lot on thursdays because of that smoking area/bar area. Usually pull at least every other time from there because you can talk a lot. In the other rooms it's just daft sh1t like pulling girls off the stage etc. It probably helps to look the part in the other rooms (i.e. rave paint, all that dumb sh1t), dance like a fvcking mad man and pull the girls when everyone starts getting drunk.

I go to ****pit as well, stand outside in the smoking area/road and talk to girls there.

So basically my main club approach is to talk to girls in decent places (smoking area, quieter rooms), then as the night cracks on, I'll grind on some random birds. Eventually it turns into a numbers game, and if the numbers are right, you'll score often enough.

You at uni or met? :p
Sounds like a good approach I'll give it a try. I like mission too I usually just stay outside a lot. Wish I had the money to go out more often.

I'm in second year at met ;)
 

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goodfoot said:
"I'll just add that I dance like my mom but better"

I don't know what that is supposed to mean but it sounds hilarious.
Haha, have you never seen like 4 mothers dancing together, like at family parties and stuff, it's horrible.
 

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If you see 4 guys approach one girl, dance a bit and then eject obviously SOMETHING is wrong.... Logic tells you a 5th guy approaches the same way you going to get the same result... be different

My typical approach especially if you're with friends, put yourself in a visual spot where she can see you and your buddies laughing and having a good time, be louder than ur friends and lead them like the head hancho... let her see you and look at you a bit (girls like to do this anyway) Once you catch a glance or two, or even a smile then approach, chances are WAY up she'll accept then its game on...

If i'm by myself (which I assume by ur friends lameness u basically were) you do the same thing but with other females. Approach other women in her vicinity with solid game you know can run you 5 minutes or so with some laughs (lots of opinions, canned lines) and let her check you out....

Once she gives you the invite, head on over...



-cod3r
 
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