"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Every pretty girl has a boyfriend Pt. 2

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Damnit, this is starting to piss me off. I made the first thread a couple months ago, and thought maybe it was just bad luck, wrong. I'm still having problems meeting pretty girls who are single. From the time of that thread until now, I have not met one HB8+ who is single. Not ONE. Well maybe one, but she turned out to be a raging alcoholic.

I'm not having any problems with women right now, and my confidence is good, I just can't get in the door because they're all taken. So I can't even work my game. Where are you DJ's finding these single hot babes? Are clubs my last resort? I've noticed most in that scene are kind of trashy and I end up getting so wasted I act like an idiot.

I swear finding a single chick is like a finding a needle in a haystack.

Are my standards too high or something?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I totally agree with you here. Most girls that are HB6.5 and above have bfs, and as you go higher up the rank (HB7, HB7.5, HB8, HB9....), the chances of them having bfs are way higher.

So, it seems that if we wanna game chicks, we need to somehow prepare to handle the bf and hope he won't hunt us down with a mafia gang or something.
Now waiting for advice.

And I can't settle for anything less than a HB7 though I'm an AFC.
 

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Every pretty girl has a BF, true, however most of them are more than willing to trade up if the chance presents. You just have to be that guy. If you *can't* be that guy, if you're consistently viewed as a worse option than what she's already got .... well there's your problem.

George Clooney seldom hears "sorry, I have a boyfriend".
Donald Trump seldom hears "I'm already taken hon".
 
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I wonder if it's because they're famous and have millions of dollars?

C'mon buddy, wake up and smell the smelling salt.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Obey Propaganda said:
Wake up and smell the smelling salt. Clooney and Trump are famous and have millions of dollars.
And are thus almost always considered a trade up from what she has. Thanks for getting it. I think.


ChrizZ said:
be better than her boyfriend.
See? What he said.
 

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I see plenty of single hot babes. They're always dating someone, yes, but they aren't taken (i.e not in a relationship).
 

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Nikar said:
I totally agree with you here. Most girls that are HB6.5 and above have bfs, and as you go higher up the rank (HB7, HB7.5, HB8, HB9....), the chances of them having bfs are way higher.

So, it seems that if we wanna game chicks, we need to somehow prepare to handle the bf and hope he won't hunt us down with a mafia gang or something.
Now waiting for advice.

And I can't settle for anything less than a HB7 though I'm an AFC.
Seriously?

I can't believe you or anyone else agreed with this thread.

Most girls HB 8 and hotter will have boyfriends, but they aren't always boyfriends in the traditional sense of the word. Attractive women will almost always have AFC placeholders around who they date and have buy them dinner/take them out. Either that or the HB 8+ will have a guy who she might hook up with occasionally or has hooked up with in the past. These guys aren't real boyfriends, they're backup plans and you shouldn't be concerned about them if you're a confident and secure man.

Granted, plenty of hot women out there are in LTRs, but there is also a vast majority who are just stringing dudes along and using them for their company. Usually this entails dates (which the guy pays for) or other boyfriend-girlfriend activities (which ironically the guy pays for as well). They might function as boyfriend-girlfriend, but there is a 95 percent chance that dude is getting very little to no ass.

The thing is, if you're gaming a chick and she refers to one of these kinds of AFC guys as her boyfriend in your company, then something is wrong with your game. A woman with high IL for a dude who legitimately has game will never bring up a boyfriend. And if she does refer to one of these AFC guys as a boyfriend in your company, say something c0cky and brash like "That's great, but I'm not here to get to know your boyfriend".

Come on guys, this is pretty basic.
 
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If she tells me, "Sorry I have a boyfriend" I say, "Does he know you like me more than him?" or "That's nice" (and continue what you were saying), or "Sucks for you" or shake her hands and say "Congratulations!"

When she tells you she has a boyfriend it shouldn't change your modus operandi at all. You can find a hottie anywhere, you can go to a club if you wish. All depends on what you want. And don't change your standards. Be yourself.

Unless your standards are unrealistic.....are they? (Don't lie to yourself)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Think about it this way, the world will end in 2012, we are in the end times and the mark of the beast will be implemented on us soon. You either get off your butt and go approach girls now or you will never get the chance, the clock is ticking on humanity!

call me crazy but that is the attitude I have developed. Bf or no bf just put it on the back of your head that time is running out so ask em out now while you still can.
 

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Thanks to MikeYikes122 and Social Calibration for the enlightenment!
The analogy is good and now I can see much clearer.
 

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Think about it like this.

When you were an AFC, I'm sure you managed to still land a couple of dates with a handful of attractive chicks. But usually, these dates never went anywhere. Most of the time you felt used and acted overly needy with her the whole time, and never did you get any ass from the chick.

That is what hot women have at their disposal at all times. Not boyfriends.

Your job as a DJ is to transcend past being one of them.
 

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Obey Propaganda said:
Your analogy failed bigjohnson.
Yeah, sure. As they say, you can lead a dumbass to the facts but you can't make them improve. Almost all girls will have a BF if they can, and pretty ones can. Most girls will be more than willing to trade up if they figure they can make it work.

The examples I gave are extremes but serve to illustrate the point.

If you don't like the answer then perhaps it's best to avoid asking the question.

The fact is that if you or someone is consistently getting rejected with the "I have a BF" excuse it's simply that you're fishing out of your league. You have two non-exclusive options: Move yourself up or your expectations down.

What did you THINK the answer would be?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Snowman's the one with the problem, not me.

And I just thought that wasn't the greatest comparison.
 

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bigjohnson, I haven't been getting rejected, but I've seen them talking with their BF, talking about their BF, or holdings hands with him.

now that I think about it... I don't think my expectations are too high, I just have to face reality that I have to compete with other guys, she's not gonna land in my lap.
 
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now that I think about it... I don't think my expectations are too high, I just have to face reality that I have to compete with other guys, she's not gonna land in my lap.

BOO-YA! :crackup:
 

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Snowman23 said:
bigjohnson, I haven't been getting rejected, but I've seen them talking with their BF, talking about their BF, or holdings hands with him.

now that I think about it... I don't think my expectations are too high, I just have to face reality that I have to compete with other guys, she's not gonna land in my lap.

Well I wouldn't choose a moment where she's deep in conversation with her BF to approach, but the fact that they HAVE a BF is almost meaningless. Women are well aware of their dating potential, but they are also aware they can glean benefit from dating below it. Thus a lot of (but not all) pretty girls are essentially dating Mr. Right Now waiting for Mr Right.

Every girl I have ever dated has had a BF when I met her. Every one.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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