"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ever had this problem?

WORKEROUTER

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Have any of you guys met chicks who flirt with you a lot and stuff(like touching and everything) but decline to go out with you or "take it up to the next step?" What do you guys think the reason(s) for this is and what would you do? (im in a situation like this right now).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Trogdawg

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I had a girl do that to me once. She was all touchy feely huggy with me. Even held my hand for a night. Maybe she was on X or something but she didn't want to give me her #. I'll need more info on your situation and a little history to give you better feedback.

Your best bet would be to ask for her # and then a date and if she says No than tell her to quit touching you. That you can't be touched by just anyone. Be humorous about it. Make her miss you. She'll either finally come around or start feeling on someone else. Oh well if that happens, it just shows you would have been the guy of the day.

Post more and I'll give you more feedback.
 

Porky

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**** man, I'm like the male version of that. I do it without even realizing. Some chicks just flirt a lot, and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.
 

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nice 1 trogdawg

hey whats up yal? that's what all girls think all guys do (i mean don't ever want to move to the next step). I liked trogdawg's way of looking at it. Ask her about it and if she says she doesn't want to move up then tell her to stop touching you. Do you want to be serious with this girl?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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SnatchJP

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They used to call them "sunshine girls". They flirt with anyone and everyone but don't want actually go anywahere.

Unfortuantely it's pretty common. If they turn you down, try asking them why they've been flirting with you all night. Beyond that, I'm not sure. You could try the tactic of deliberately ignoring them. (There's a good article about it headlined on the main sosuave.com site called Calculated Indifference: A Small Story to Warm Your Hearts. Its about a completely different situation, but the strategy to use is the same.)
 
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