"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ever been called on gaming?

zekko

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There has been a lot of talk lately about how pickup is becoming mainstream. Because of the internet, pretty much everyone is able to get these secrets if they want to look for them. Some people have suggested it's not good to do routines for this reason.

So my question is, has anyone tried any basic seduction material stuff on a girl, and she knew what you were doing and called you on it? Like maybe she knew what a "neg" is and that you were doing it to her or such? Just curious.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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bish0p

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Yeah, my ex figured out my game and reversed it on me...took her about a year, but she did a damn good job of screwing me up for 5 weeks.

The last time I slept with her, she told me that I try to be a player but I'm really not.
 

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Routines are stupid, if you don't actually become attractive you'll fizzle out over time and revert back to a chump. Getting laid or a girlfriend isn't that hard, it's keeping it going for a long time that's difficult for most men. It's getting onto that top level.
 

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No one will call it , unless your faking it, and using pre-made lines and routines. Bring the game INTO your personality and itll be yours, too unique to be called on. It will be you
 

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DJ_Tekinkel said:
No one will call it , unless your faking it, and using pre-made lines and routines. Bring the game INTO your personality and itll be yours, too unique to be called on. It will be you
Precisely. How could anyone call me on negging when it is just a natural part of a long conversation? If it stands out then you're not doing it right. These things should be part of your nature.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dust 2 Dust

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I tried the cube once in a club, but she said 3 other guys had already shown her as well.
 

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I once had a bird say to me, "Are you one of those ****y guys?"

The implication was, that ****y guys are not a scarce commodity.
 

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I have never been called on my game, I am just "naturally" c&f. Girls don't know that I have been working on it for months. Just don't use canned lines and you should be fine.
 

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Not by any girls, I'm a natural. A couple of years back some chump tried to ****block me talking to two chicks when i ran a cologne opener saying "I saw the pickup artist too" even though that line, to my knowledge, was never on the pick up artist. Now I haven't had any issues with guys trying to call me out because I usually blow them out and my frame is stronger than theirs since I am the alpha male. I'll usually be in set running my game and the guy will just fizzle out because he runs out of stuff to say or I'll end up having an audience with the guy watching me along with the girls friends....then I may decide to bring them into the conversation by asking them their opinion or to role play, but it comes off so natural they don't even notice I'm running material. I love natural game.

When I was with my ex some chump tried the cube on her and she lol'd but let him finish, she knew what it was because I used to talk to her about that stuff but she politely allowed him to finish and acted intrigued. To this day I refuse to run the cube, so lame.

Learn the routines to get your foot in the door, after that, branch off and develop your personality and you will know the structure but won't need any routines because it's gonna flow natural and you won't get called out. You don't have to open the chicks about some imaginary fight outside or ask them "who lies more," instead throw a compliment out about how you love how her outfit matches her shoes or something that intrigues you about her then go from there, mini cold read ("you seem like a west coast chick, I found girls from the west coast are generally more fun than east coast girls"), story about your ex from the west coast, stack, kino, story, comfort, logistical questions, more kino, ESCALATE, # close, gametime. Sounds more genuine and chicks appreciate that rather than that other b/s. Be a man and own the interaction. If at anytime, you're getting low energy in the interaction, NEXT, walk away and go open some chicks that are more fun, forget fighting an uphill battle that will lead to nowhere.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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that's why if i go with material i make sure it's a little bit more underground like Juggler's stuff is cool and it seems more genuine than who lies more etc...but if you take mystery's stuff like learning how to tell stories and the other concepts you can develop your own material on the fly if ur smart enough.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
I once had a bird say to me, "Are you one of those ****y guys?"

The implication was, that ****y guys are not a scarce commodity.
WOw i got no idea how to reply to that fast
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
I once had a bird say to me, "Are you one of those ****y guys?"
BananaSmile said:
WOw i got no idea how to reply to that fast
Say 'bit more than most, 15 inches long'
 

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Scripted routines are boring and lame as hell, I'd never do them. I have no idea why they work, women must be retarded.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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