Even the Bible warned us, Proverb 31

[exhausted]

Fear of death is a strong motivator for a belief in God.

I don't fear death and my faith is strong.
When you truly realize everything in life is a miracle that it actually works and how, you will believe in God.

 

[exhausted]

Well, you were grown inside a woman's womb.

More evidence to say a woman crreated you than the God who was written of by nomadic cave dwellers 2000 years ago who is yet to reappear.

Not really.
Didn't a man's sperm begin our life in the womb by putting us there?

If there is no God then how did the first baby survive, who cared for it and where did it come from? I'm seriously asking i cant figure it out.

 

[Atom Smasher]

As you guys know, I have been seeing a woman who has been giving me virtually zero problems for a solid year now, and I've mentioned our similar faith as being a prime reason.

When one gets their spiritual life in order, life is no longer meaningless (just like Solomon discovered and wrote about so many years ago). Chasing after the P is a complete exercise in dissipation and futility. It gives a man a temporary rush of power, and that's about it. The key word is temporary. It breeds emptiness, and I'm sure a lot of guys on this site experience that emptiness.

 

[BeTheChange]

I don't fear death and my faith is strong.
When you truly realize everything in life is a miracle that it actually works and how, you will believe in God.

And yet you just happen to subscribe to a religion that promises eternal life. The luck! Gods be good!

 

[Atom Smasher]

You express "knowledge" that there is no heaven or hell, and you express "knowledge" about what a creator would value.

I would submit that you have no such knowledge at all (you are merely speculating in a way that makes you feel comfortable), and that your position is based on faith just as much as a Christian's position.

 

[exhausted]

And yet you just happen to subscribe to a religion that promises eternal life. The luck! Gods be good!

What religion? I never mentioned a religion. Religion is different from faith.

With all due respect im not here to argue God. I'm good. Not trying to sway or be swayed.

 

[exhausted]

I personally believe in the Buddhist concept that your ego and soul are an illusion and we are all the same cosmic soup....in effect, we ARE God.

However, I don't believe in afterlife and I wouldn't want one. It;s so obviously bull**** designed to give a false promise in exchange for a lifetime, your only lifetime, of submission to their ideas on how they want you to behave.

One thing is for sure, nobody has any proof of any sort that you do anything but rot when you die. It's taken me 35 years to learn that, I spent years mourning the loss of my eternal soul, but although I would love to think there is something more, I will wait for a nice surprise and try to make my time, here and NOW,as ethical and good as I can,without the need for a ******* when I die. Whatever creator there is would value this more than someone bullied into good deeds by menace of fire and the carrot of heaven.

No one bullies me into anything.
Religions are set by men they aren't the same as faith in the creator. And most men in this life are lacking.

Either way I'm good on faith and not here to sway or be swayed. All is good
I dont care if someone worships a rock. Not my business.

 

[wifehunter]

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. - ESV

Sorry, you lose...only fools say, "there is no God".

 

[wifehunter]

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

A short study of history will quickly establish that the monotheistic God explicitly referred to here is a relatively new phenomenon. It certainly is not the oldest, Pagans worshipped nature, then we had polytheism. One eternal God sprung up a few thousand years ago.

Plus, arguing he exists because people believe it is like arguing Santa Claus is real when it's only children in the room.

Sorry, you won't win this one. You have no proof of anything.

I don't need proof.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Plus, arguing he exists because people believe it is like arguing Santa Claus is real when it's only children in the room.

Sorry, you won't win this one. You have no proof of anything.

We have proof that you are an obnoxious know-it-all who tries to tell other people what to believe, which is typical for an Atheist.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Does it turn women on when you whine about your childhood and use it as an excuse to be obnoxious to people you have never met? Because that smells like pvssy repellent to me.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Good for you for quitting smoking, or whatever nicotine you use. I quit a long time ago. I bought a pack of menthol mini-cigars and told myself I could have all I wanted if I just smoked those and nothing else. I never made it through the first pack.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Humans are pretty simple creatures. We've been telling the same stories since the dawn of time. The meanings are pretty simple.

What's the "message" from the garden of eden story?

Do what you're told, or else.

Imagine an early leader of a small farming community. Everybody's got to bust their arse all day working. So they complain. They say "why do we have to work so hard? Why can't we laze around like the animals?"

So he tells the garden of eden story. What does it do?

We humans had it easy, but we were disobedient, and so we've got to work hard.

What's the deeper meaning?

Do what you're told, or else. It also presupposes that the story teller is somehow connected to the original authority, as ancient leaders were thought to be (King = God),

This is why stories like these have been told and retold for thousands of years. They WORK. They keep the social order, and keep the riff raff from getting uppity.

 

[QuadDeuces]

The Bible also tells you to go no contact after your BPD has discarded you.
No Joke.

 

[glass half full]

iv'e read hte bible like 5 times cover to cover

if it's not a direct quote from god, or from jesus, i take it wiht a grain of salt. this sin't.

Sorry dude, but some of it is a direct quote from Christ.. esp. books of Matthew, Mark and Luke. Find a Bible in which the words Jesus Christ spoke are printed in Red.
If the apostle Paul can be saved after the damaging words he gave during his life, anyone can. He became one of the Disciples.

 

[backbreaker]

Reading this smoking the **** out of a Newport 100 lol on my patio drinking a scotch

 

[backbreaker]

This is proverbs chapter 31(I know my bible)


Proverbs 31 is a teaching that king Solomon is passing on as wisdom other that was once taught to him.


This is roughly 1000 years before Jesus was born so no its not a direct quote. Hell its not even a direct quote from Solomon its third hand knowledge passed on
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If its not in red or not from the LORD its useful info but not the word of god

 

[exhausted]

This is proverbs chapter 31(I know my bible)


Proverbs 31 is a teaching that king Solomon is passing on as wisdom other that was once taught to him.


This is roughly 1000 years before Jesus was born so no its not a direct quote. Hell its not even a direct quote from Solomon its third hand knowledge passed on
.
If its not in red or not from the LORD its useful info but not the word of god

It's useful That's why i posted it.

 

[logicallefty]

I'm not a Christian but there are a lot of good versus in the Bible. The OP's #2 is another good one I had not yet seen.

My daughter (14) and I just had a talk about Mary. She is trying to figure her religious beliefs out on her own. I am agnostic and her mother is a Christian. My daughter asked me how Jesus could be the son of God, how the sexual intercourse went down. I said "Jesus is not the son of God, Mary fvcked one or more of the wise men behind Joseph's back". My daughter said "yeah duhh that makes the most sense, i think I will go with that". Who really knows the true answer, I'm only going with what is the most logical to me. Women cheat now, they cheated back then, and they will continue to cheat until the end of Earth.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Who really knows the true answer,

Jesus was allegedly crucified in AD 0. The first gospel or the epistles weren't written for 30 years after that. That's sixty years of "word of mouth" between the Virgin Mary story and when pen was put to paper.

I see as more metaphorical, archetype than anything else.

Plus, the idea of a virgin birth isn't original to Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_births