"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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European Women

Frink'

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Okay... so, I don't really have a point here, but maybe this will kick off an interesting discussion.

I'm amazed at how nice and pleasant it is to date in Norway. I go out to a bar, I smile at a girl, she smiles back, we chat, and maybe I get her number.

If a girl is attracted to me she seems to smile back without hesitation. I don't see any of the same games that I found in America.

I don't want to put the blame on the women here, but it seems that American women always are on the defensive in a social situation, and you, as a guy, always have to overcome that hurdle. Only rarely have I had American woman who openly, and blatantly, smile back at me in a bar. But it happens all the time here in Europe.

If nothing else, I think American women are much, much, more subtle. In America, you hear quotes all the time like: "He's clueless", "He just didn't get the hint at all." I don't believe that really exists in Europe, or at least not to the same extent.

Why _hint_? If you like someone, why not make it clear? If you don't like someone, why not make that clear?

I know that I'm generalizing, but thoughts?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Frink' said:
I don't want to put the blame on the women here, but it seems that American women always are on the defensive in a social situation, and you, as a guy, always have to overcome that hurdle. Only rarely have I had American woman who openly, and blatantly, smile back at me in a bar. But it happens all the time here in Europe.
Why not put the blame squarely where it rests - on American women? Our feminist Matriarx has installed a female superiority complex and underlying hostility against the male gender that distorts every interaction. Outside the Matriarx, gender relations are far more natural and normalized - where men are men, women are women and everybody's happy about it. As soon as you step outside our borders you will notice this. It's impossible not to.
 
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I strongly disagree. If you want to make generalisations, then make them about Norwegian women within that specific district of Norway.

I have been to Europe (although I was always with my parents, which could potential disqualify this whole analysis) in these areas: Italy and Switzerland.

I can tell you that in terms of cold approaching by giving a weak smile, or even saying 'ciao' to them, they look the other way. I dont know about bars or those other places, but in a busy public setting such as a market place or mall, I see no difference between European girls and American girls.

I think most of these girls are either married, since they all appear to marry someone at yonge ages, usually someone they meet from highschool, elementary school or from their surrounding community and are just as difficult to approach if not more so to North American girls.
 
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