Essential Seduction

[midik]

A few months ago, my cheating lying ex broke up with me for the last time and i was devastated. I was needy and emotionally dependent on her, i.e a totally nonfunctional loser AFC, and completely for nothing, all of it my own fault. I started failing classes, my friends had abandoned me, and i sank into depression. All i had left was surfing porn websites and reading ****ty self help.

I never want any of you to go through what i went through.

My travels in Israel this summer brought me to the home of an old Druze man living near Jerusalem who told me something that will stay with me forever.

"The greatest happiness in a man's life comes from a good wife, and the greatest hardship is a bad one or no one!"

My compassion for you all leads me to help as much as I can.

You all are giving yourselves the chance to improve and even though you could be successful without reading a single thing more (just by thinking about what you want, and observing the truth about how things work), i want to give you all the advantages you can have.

the most important thing not to lose sight of is that you have to be yourself or everything will come crashing down on you. Use critical thinking and common sense, make your own style of seduction (give yourself a callsign nickname only for the community; its fun), open your eyes and your head to reality. YOU DON'T NEED ANY OF THIS TO LIVE, SO DONT LET IT TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE! Have fun, take risks, be a MAN. You are worthwhile by virtue of existing.




On a side note, there is a lot of crap out there.


I was in a very "dark"
place spiritually. I was completely stuck in my head, due to
getting caught up in this "sex-cult" known as the
'seduction community'.

I was extremely sad and depressed in those days, having
almost lost complete faith in true love and in God.



There are those who are motivated purely by financial gain, and not by their compassion. Additionally, they either give intentionally bad advice to keep you consuming their media, or are so psychologically damaged that they hurt themselves or others more than they help. Men like

David DeAngelo,
Ross Jeffries,
Carlos Xuma,
Mystery,
Rob J.,
the men of RSD,
and most of the people in "The Game"
(including the alter ego style, but
not the man Neil Strauss).

I have read the work of all these "men" and can not recommend even bothering with their work. Everything you need to know is covered by, conventional wisdom, Neil Strauss (the Jugglers method), wikihow / wikipedia, and the bible.

If you have the time or need more to balance your life and get on track, let me suggest the following:

read a ROMANCE NOVEL from the library, this is how your girl wants to feel
Stephane's Newsletter from IdeaGasms (ideagasms.net)
ome page - http://www.ideagasms.net/ideagasms-home/
watch the ENTIRE Girlfriend.Training.Program by Stephane of IdeaGasms
I like what Stephane from Ideagasms teaches about being a real man. he´s one of the few people in this scene who really have something to say. Check out some Interviews in Youtube.

Cool stuff. Ying mixes with ying but yang not with yang biggrin.gif I also like the girlfriend Training programme but the Video about being an unreasonable man is the ****! Stephanes Interview with David D is also very good. Stephanes Girlfriend isnt my type but somehow she´s sweet.

By the way, Ross Jeffries Patterns are very effective! A lot of the stuff from the fastseduction.com site comes from him! Greg had some guest appearences in David D´s Programmes!

David Shade's Newsletter (davidshade.com)
Cliff's List Newsletter - caveat emptor most is crap (cliffslist.com)
Juggler (charismaarts.com)
fastseduction.com
blogs of these authors or blogs in general
the bible / torah (you might ask how my religion and seduction coexist. How do YOUR morals and seduction coexist?)
Honor by James Bowman
any guy books that are about taking risks, doing your duty, military, adventures, or that make you feel manly in general
maybe some NLP stuff

authors i have not fully read yet i dont think you need these nutcases:
IN10SE (or Twotimer), Badboy, Shark, PlayboyLA, Tyler Durden, Carlos Xuma, Swinggcat, Steve Piccus, Sinn, Savoy, Hypnotica(or Rasputin) and Zan Perrion

and download this torrent on seduction.


http://www.fulldls.com/torrent-ebooks-24169.html

A collection of the best seduction and relationship books in the community, hand picked just for you!

Everything you need to know, and nothing you don\'t

almost like a hard reset for the world of sex and relationships

One of the better self help book I have read recently was the infinite self - 33 steps to reclaiming you inner power by Stuart Wilde.

The steps vary from not defending something, to philosophical discipline, to centering the mind. Taoism at it's finest.

I recommend reading ALL of Stuart Wilde's books. He will change the way you thik about thinking.


http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Self-Stuart-Wilde/dp/1561703494

Other then that check out the torrent sites.
http://www.mininova.org/


A few of my recent finds

http://www.fulldls.com/torrent-ebooks-24169.html

http://www.mininova.org/tor/933858

http://www.mininova.org/tor/807286

http://www.mininova.org/tor/985538

http://www.mininova.org/tor/627972

An idea that has helped me is that you must be happy within yourself before you can be happy with someone else. You don't want to rely on anyone else for happiness other than YOURSELF! Don't be afraid of NOT being in a relationship, you must first focus on what makes YOU happy and who YOU are etc. Then you can find a person to match, and if it takes a while to find that right person it won't be harsh because you should be happy even without anyone else. Um, Get it???

Having said that break-ups are always hard and the best way to make yourself happy is by making other people happy , That's just my two cents.

I personaly find nearly all the seduction forums and workshops etc quite crass, objectified and mainly based around getting sex.

IMO one of the better ones is Mystery's newer stuff (Mystery Method), more about making up your own lines and sets forming them to particular situations, leading you to real relationships rather than just getting women into bed.

Ross Jerffies is more about hypnotism, mind control and the like and is not a very nice way to go about finding a female.

Plus, most of this stuff, like the intros and so on have been around for quite a while now and from what I understand (my brother was right into it) most girls in the larger citys and backpacker haunts have been done to death.

That said, I know someone who used a classic mystery intro line around Surfers Paradise last year "Excuse me, my friend and I were talking about something cand, can I ask you... do you floss before or after brushing" and he scored countless numbers, kisses and encounters. so there you go.. LOL..

I have the latest MM video's + book and its quite interestign to see it all in action, and that it realy can work.
I watched it mainly, to learn some good ways to start conversations in general and the kind of sings and actions that women find stimulating but beyond that.. who really wants to be with a girl that falls for some of this ****..

You gotta find your own style! david DeAngelos Programmes are interesting to watch but dont help much. But if you are already into the scene, you can get something out of it! Dr.Paul, which is a guest speaker of david D is a great psychiatrist and he made a great Programme with David D about the Deep Inner Game! Every Game is inner Game! If your interested in this stuff you might also want to check out the MIND OS Programme from Dr.Paul. There is a nice system about online dating from CHET, which mostly seems to be very funny! Mystery has great way of promoting himself and a lot of his success is based on his image. The Point is, you cant use all these techniques all the time. You gotta know every one of them! If you are just ****y and funny, you still havent any sexual content in your product. And thats really important if you dont want to end up being the good friend. I prefer every NLP Seminar that helps you to become a better man. It´s not about hypnotizing woman into bed. But i think its very interesting to see how the human brain works. Just take a look at the patterns and anchoring! Thats really deep stuff and if you are aware of all these processes, a normal guy wont stand a chance. If they want to speak about the weather with beautiful girls, ok fine. But i prefer to do else.

let me leave you with a quote i made up:
Fear tells you that you are a worm pretending to be a lion, but you are really a lion who can't realize that you aren't a worm.

dont accept anything based in fear, only accept things based on love.

good luck on your journey, which began the day you realized that things could be better. keep striving for your goals.


P.S.
DONT EVER LET A PROBLEM FESTER

 

[midik]

I forgot to add.
Many in the Pick up field are macho, narcissistic control-freaks who
think that Pick up is going to give them power over insecure women.

These guys listen to the stuff, and they absorb all of the "spank energy" but completely miss the most important
stuff concerning Heart, Love, Compassion, and so on.

It's like, a lot of guys view their woman as a computer program
or math problem to be "solved". They wish they could just "fix
her head" and get a GF or a ****.

The trick is to LISTEN to women, to "seek first to understand,
then to be understood". But many guys don't listen, they don't ask
women,
"What's really going on inside of you? What are your
concerns, your fears, what does your Heart tell you?" and so on.

You most likely already realize this. Anyway,

"Dominace" and "game" and other forms of mind-control are just
that. In order for a couple to qualify to be in a true,
the relationship has so be SOOOO AWESOME
that the woman is bursting at the seams with Joy in her Heart.


I've never had to "persuade" women

There was no "game", Only Heart.


An article...

The Four Kinds of Leaders
by Puran Bair, June 2005

There is a conception of a leader as a person who sees what others don't see, who exposes a new paradigm to answer questions that can't even be expressed in the old mind-set. One who understands the profound truths that clarify and simplify reality and can communicate these liberating visions to others through dialogue and presence.

This view is one-fourth of leadership, but since those who hold it are excellent communicators, it gets considerably more press than the three other types of equally-valid leadership.

There is also leadership in a situation that everyone already understands but which few can face. On the battlefield, there is the leader who raises his head and charges into the oncoming fire to blaze a path for others to follow, inspiring those who are frozen in fear and unable to do what they know they must. After an airplane crash in the Potomac river, a man jumped into the freezing water to swim out to passengers and tow them back to shore. They were uninjured but too shocked to swim half the distance he swam. There is the woman who galvanizes a community to action against the pollution they all know about but have passively accepted. This leadership is also evident in the businesswoman who inspires the company to a higher standard of quality: it's the courage to do what's hard but known, instead of the insight to do what's simple but unknown.

There is another kind of leadership that knits together a group of people who could not get along with each other without the leader's harmonizing influence. This is not a hierarchical leadership that explains a theory to the ignorant masses or shows extraordinary courage in a crisis. This is a leader who might be invisible to the group, until he or she leaves, whereupon the group falls into divergence. This leader operates like the heart in the body: the head gets all the credit, but the heart establishes the heart-rate on its own from polling the organs and muscles directly, independent of the brain.

The last kind of leader is one who is very conscious of leadership, accepting the burden of it not for any glory or fame, but simply because they must; it is their responsibility. A leader of this type is dependable; he will carry you across the river on his back; he will hold you safe so that you do not drown. She will take your thorny faults and hide them under her own coat, even through they scratch her skin, until they are eventually rubbed smooth. This leader's path is not detachment; it is attachment; it is duty, and he will not fail you.

The path to developing leadership is to first recognize which kind of leader you are, and then perfect it. Next, stretch to develop a neighboring style of leadership, integrating it with your own.

In this development, some concepts are useful, but most important is the practice of meditation. The meditation that develops the power of the leader is not regarding the world as impermanent from a detached observance. It is a meditation of love, in which one identifies with all that is. We do not aspire to experience no thought; we aspire to experience all emotion. One does not find one's self by elimination, but by inclusion. Our chief problem is a narrow self-concept; the truth about ourselves is that we are infinite, eternal and perfect. To become fulfilled, which is our purpose in life, we must incorporate the eagle, the lion, the rabbit and the snake -- that's how we overcome ignorance, anger, greed and jealousy. We submit the mind and ego to the service of the heart, with love.

Our practice starts simply: put your hand on your heart, then you will speak differently. Now breathe through your heart, in time to your heartbeat. Use your breath to exchange love with the world. In a few more steps, you'll be sending out a powerful magnetic pulse that is literally broadcasting peace into the world. This is active, Heart Rhythm Meditation, and it's more effective at handling stress than any other kind of meditation. It's also more beneficial for the physical heart, and we can prove it medically. Most importantly, it brings a person into a closer connection with and more profound understanding of others. It develops creativity, not just clarity. It powers responsibility and the courage to take action, not just compassion. It comes from Sufism -- its earliest practitioners were Christian mystics. It honors all parts of the self, incorporating all into a full meaning of a human being. This is the meditation of our time. This will shift our culture from the mind to the heart.

http://www.heartcentered.org/description.shtml




other related sites.

http://www.heartcenteredtherapies.org/Journal/Archived_Articles.htm

http://www.heartcenteredtherapies.org/Links.htm

Check out David Deida

http://www.bluetruth.org/blog/Articles

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=D...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Love is the only truth. everything else is illusion.

Our real aim in life is to know truth, and the truth about anything or anyone is a fluid quality. It differs according to the angle of view point, according to person and circumstance. It changes continuously and for everyone.

Therefor to be a skeptic or even to have an opinion is static, stagnant, mentally unclean, and unimportant.

One can only have knowledge, on the other hand, to respond to truth, and to hope to acquire wisdom and indentification with reality.

Seek the truth, not other people's truth, your OWN truth. Research what you're learning and you will realise that some are far from a good example of being heart centered and far from being a person living with unconditional love.

This isn't a win/lose world like some would want you to believe. Where everyone is either with him or against him. Where everyone is either ignorant or thinks like him.

The difference between a blind man and a person who refuses to see something is that the person who refuses to see something can make the choice to see it.

 

[ready123]

so other than exposing yourself to loads of seduction material, have you actually turned your dating life around?

 

[midik]

so other than exposing yourself to loads of seduction material, have you actually turned your dating life around?

Yes, but it was not the seduction material that did it.
It can help, but your main keys are inner game, perception and energy.

I was blessed with perception in this lifetime, and what I didn’t get as a gift, I
worked on myself to develop.

It was perception and the cat’s curiosity
that drove me forward to discover whatever I could. I didn’t
get the whole story as it’s probably beyond my
comprehension, and also, as I got closer and closer it
became far too dangerous, so some of the story still remains
hidden.

But from my experiences, I can say this: if there is
one thing that will serve you more than anything else in this
life, more than money, fame, or specialness, it is perception.
It is the only currency of choice right now. When you pray
to your God, don’t pray for safety; pray for perception.
Only the truly perceptive will ever be able to direct their
lives to a healthy spiritual conclusion, which I am sure you
deserve.

I was shocked when I realized things were often
placed backwards. We are sold on the idea that daytime is
safe and good and that nighttime is unsafe and not so
good—quite the reverse. Nighttime is the only time you can
communicate unhindered. It’s very safe compared to the
day time for most of the nearby human minds are asleep,
leaving you unhindered. Sunlight destroys melatonin, which
is vital for ESP. Why are sunny holidays so cheap? For
perception you need moisture in the air and darkness.
Here’s a cheap holiday in a dry sunny place, try that. Why
are surfers who spend all day in the sun usually none too
bright. Why is melatonin banned in sunny Australia? Ding!
By the way, fear often arises from dehydration. When your
body is dry, it destroys your perception and makes you
more scared. Most people don’t drink enough clean water. If
you drink four liters (about eight pints) of water and take a
couple of lecithin tablets each day, you can re-hydrate your
body over a period of several weeks.

I learn't that the seduction community can be a trap or a ego trip.
The more you travel out to find what you are looking for, the less you will find it.

You may have already experienced that.

Sit still and in silence and you will find. seek not. The kingdom of god is all around you and inside you. You don't have to go any where. you all ready have the answer, you are the answer.

It is about inner creation that is what it is all about.
molding your self in your own creation.

Its all sold backwards to make sure you never figure it out. Never forgot that.

Here are a few things I discovered

You are everything. Everything emits a feeling. So
you are all the feelings of the universe. Therefore, if you
want to know what is round the next corner you only have
to blank your mind and enter the feeling. Remember, subtle
feeling is ESP not emotion. Of course, most people are not
used to listening to their subtle feelings for information, as
they are either all mental activity, or they confuse feelings
with emotions.

What seems to be an extra sensory perception of
feelings is, in fact, your primary perception. The mind and
its free will are the override. They enter a guessing game
when in fact you already have all the answers, you always
did have. You also know exactly what is going on and what
is about to happen next. All human action rises from a
hidden subconscious impulse and that impulse has a feeling.
When you get good at it, you can ‘feel’ the very subtle

impulses that will occur in the future. After you master
listening to your feelings, you don’t have to plan or think.
It’s all obvious, minute-by-minute. It’s such a relief. Of
course, once your life becomes immediate, you won’t be
able to plan very far ahead, as at any moment your subtle
feelings might cancel your mental plan; however, it does
allow you to be right all the time. Your subtle feelings are
never wrong.
Once you follow the subtle plan, life becomes
magical—but you will not at first understand the
synchronicity of life that is all around you, weaving its
magic. Yes, the universe is close-by and all around you.
Simple. That is why I say get rid of free will; it’s a disaster
and part of the control trip. You’re probably a slave to it.
Drop it. Stop searching and planning, stop it. Stop
pretending your intellect knows what to do. Feel out what
you ought to do next. You’ll get good at it very quickly. At
first you may make a few mistakes by letting emotion or
thinking get in the way, but you will soon master it.
Soon nothing will be able to hide from you, and
after a while your subtle feelings will talk to you in more
complex ways, like visions. If everyone went with their
feelings, this zoo, this prison, would fall apart. We’d leave
the world of emotion and mind and enter the Kingdom of
Heaven, as our subtle feelings are part of the Kingdom of
Heaven. They offer us the real truth.

Imagine a world where there was only real truth.
Where your stockbroker had to tell the truth, where
lawyers were not allowed to lie, where everyone had to
admit their true intentions. At first, it would be mayhem,

but once everyone had been caught out lying a few times;
they’d soon follow the game plan and would have to quit
lying or be ostracized.

The lies of the world are all pervasive. They are
everywhere. In every corner you look. People pretend to be
righteous and honest; people pretend they have your
interests at heart while screwing you at every moment of
the day. People say they love you, but if they do from
emotion or mind, they are lying. Love that comes from the
mind is usually just a social nicety, like saying, “Good
morning.” If you listen carefully you will hear when
someone’s love comes from their mind, not from their
feelings; you will notice the hollow clang in their voice. A
mental “I love you” has a tinny feel to it. Love that comes
from emotion is usually not worth having either as it’s lace
with a need that screams, “I love you but love me back. I’m
insecure—don’t leave me.” Only unconditional love from
your subtle feelings is right.

Where are you? You are at the center of a subtle
feeling. Let go of free will, it’s a nightmare and inaccurate—
use subtle feelings instead, they are never wrong. Stop
guessing what the outcome will be, stand inside the feeling
of the outcome and you will know.

Where are Heaven and Hell?

You guessed it. They are right here, inside you,
inside me, inside every molecule of reality. Both are in the
hologram, your hologram and mine. God is both heaven an
hell and the devil is the same—they are all in the same
hologram. If you can love the devil and the dark side, and
not be scared of it, you are free. That does not mean you
should embrace evil, it just means you should have looked
at the evil within you, forgiven yourself, and improved your
ways. And you should embrace the evil of others and love
them for their weakness and dysfunction.

There is no real good and evil, everything is one.
You choose the quality of what you want to see, well your
emotions and attitude do.
So what is hell? Hell is an emotion. It’s where most
of the fat controllers of this world (nazi) will end up. The
insidious nature of their inhuman behavior will take them
to a fat controller’s world, except there they will find that
they are the ones being controlled. When you hold a person
tightly by the wrist, you imagine that you control them, and
if they don’t know what they are doing, you do. But if you
hold a martial arts expert by the wrist, he’ll soon be walking
you about, towing you along by your grip of him. His ability
to make a move on you is subject to how hard you are
holding on to him—your imagined control of him. The
harder you hold him, the more lethal he will become, as he
will use your grip of him to break your arm and will put
you in a disadvantaged position where anything might
happen.

Hell is holding on. Heaven is letting go; love is
letting go. Letting go can be scary. The mind is not usually
up to letting go. But that is the nature of control. It seeks
ultimate power. All power is a control trip. But all control
controls the controller. You might be the president of a
large company where your ego can flourish in its illusion of
its importance. In fact, you don’t have a life. The company,
its employees, and your customers control you. You are in a
comfy prison if the corporation is making money and in an
appalling prison if it is losing money. Both are prison camps.
When your spirit finds itself in a prison it will seek a way
out. It will figure out a way to bankrupt the company, or it
will create an incident or a disease, anything to escape. Your
corporation will be faced with endless problems, especially
if the company has been going for a long time. Businesses
usually only work while they are new and creative, but
once the humdrum sets in, the company’s cast of characters,
the staff, the owners, and so on, usually find a way to kill it
off or change it.

Control is demonic. Trying to control another
person is hell—their hell, your hell. Almost all domestic
violence is control related. He whacks her cos he’s
frustrated at the control she is trying to exercise over him,
or because she won’t be subjected to his Nazi control trip.
Or, she whacks him for the same reasons—two Nazi
controllers fighting turf wars over who will run the prison.

 

[midik]

What is jealousy? It’s the mind’s reaction to a loss of
control, or the imagined loss of control. If you don’t have to
control, you can’t be jealous, can you? Jealousy is a fascist
emotion. In the realm of subtle feeling you will love your
partner unconditionally. You won’t try to own them and
they won’t try owning you. You will assist them to
whatever is best for them in this life, even if that means
they move out. Divorce is the result of unresolved control
trips. Each hires a good liar and they enter a court that
pretends to be interested and the control trip eventually
gets sorted out.

What is romance? It’s a drug trip. When you find
someone who pleases you, endorphins are released into
your bloodstream. You become slightly intoxicated or, in
severe cases, demented. The same happens to your chosen
partner if they are in love with you. After a few months,
the novelty wears off and you either part or you try to
sustain the drug high by entering into a formal or informal
marriage contract.

What is marriage? It’s a control trip. It’s a
contract formalizing the flow and supply of drugs—brain
drugs. Why does infidelity usually cause pain? Because of
the loss of control and the loss of an imagined immortality.
It feels like a death to the one who is at the wrong end of
the infidelity. It usually angers them. They see it as life
threatening. It also usually triggers abandonment issues
(fear). If you love someone unconditionally, there is no
more faithful or unfaithful. If they go off with someone
else, let them go. Just insist they keep you properly
informed so you can make your decisions based on truth
not lies.

Sex is both one of our greatest pleasures and greatest
tormentors. Sex can hurt. It often requires you to let go and
be intimate. It hurts the female if the male satisfies himself
then leaves without caring for her emotions. It hurts the
male if she suddenly says “no,” triggering rejection. It can
also hurt him if he is not very good at having sex—shame
kicks in. Sex is a business in our modern world. It’s the glue
that holds together most romances and marriage contracts.
As glue, it becomes another part of the financial or
emotional bargain, which requires you to sell your soul
down the river.

When you can join with your partner and see them
as eternal, and when you can let go and not be a victim of it
all, or be victimized by your need for it, then it becomes a
wonderful thing.

When sex is used to patch up a gaping
hole in your relationship, it’s futile. Sex is one way you learn
to love yourself. It’s how you come to see yourself as
worthy and beautiful. Most men know nothing about sex
and don’t know how to control ejaculation. Women will
always have the advantage in that department. Most men
know nothing about women and they don’t know how to
talk to a woman in her language.

It can make the world a
lonely place for lots of women. In turn, women should stop
trying to use men as security, trying to fill a gap within
themselves. No man can fill the gap in a woman; he’s not
some sort of psychological plasterer. Instead, she should fill
her own gap and attempt to enter her goddess energy, and
only come back to her partner, male or female, once she has
sorted that out. If she doesn’t do that, sex may cause
bitterness, anger, shame, guilt, resentment, and confusion.
She may deny her need altogether. Only sex under the rules
of unconditional love makes any sense long-term. Most
other sex is part of a subtle business arrangement or control
trip.

We attempt to exercise control to create the illusion
of immortality—it also grants us a phony security. In
controlling others, we stand over them. So we are
psychologically distant from them, above them. We
psychologically distance ourselves from other people to

make ourselves important and to avoid their fate. The fate
of death. Control seeks to avoid that fate. We hope to
become more secure, but we are in fact less secure as we
are less spontaneous and less fluid.

Control, by its very nature, always controls the controller as
well as those being controlled.

 

[Sandow]

I lost you at "A few months ago..."

 

[Gustav Yavo]

ye ditto, you lost me at "A few months ago" its just way too long to read man. Short and sweet is the way to go.

 

[midik]

No problems

I suffer from adhd at times also.