escorts vs civvies

[GoodMan32]

The only way I could imagine seeing a prostitute was if I was on a business trip on a weekday. Was super horny. Just pay a ho*ker to come by & blow me.

When I failed at getting (what I thought was going to be) a sure lay (back when I was 23), that was when I contacted my first escort.

 

[corrector]

Since I'm not a Tinder Chad, I'm not sure what Tinder Chads do.

They can get any girl they want and have more women lined up then time to deal with them. Much like how you would feel in your catalogue of escorts. I'm sure people like @Hamurabimbi or @Pierce.Manhammer can get all what I"m sa ying. When you can pick up women like that then of course there is going to be a diconnect whenever this type of topic is brought up.

Both of them put in hard time and hours to improve their body to the point that they became attractive to women so they could like them naturally (as they have claimed) and view using escorts as a cop-out to doing the work needed to improve yourself.

 

[corrector]

You're right about escort inflation. I've had an obese escort charge me $500 (Her base price was $300. Then she added an extra hundred for kissing. Then an extra hundred for fetish)

That's allot of money on a salary that's like $ 35K per year. How are you able to splurge like that?

I do have a vacation pay from my full-time job. If I were a different type of guy then it would be tempting to take a one day vacation and splurge the vacation money on an escort, lol! I'm not that type of guy though.

 

[corrector]

The only way I could imagine seeing a prostitute was if I was on a business trip on a weekday. Was super horny. Just pay a ho*ker to come by & blow me.

I'm shocked you would "imagine" seeing a prostitute. You shouldn't since you can attract women naturally and could make connections over the net to meet a civvie on such a trip.

 

[The Duke]

If you can't find girls willing to go out with you then why not date down until you find some?

 

[corrector]

If you can't find girls willing to go out with you then why not date down until you find some?

Because even those girls are super entitled and have too many options.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I'm shocked you would "imagine" seeing a prostitute. You shouldn't since you can attract women naturally and could make connections over the net to meet a civvie on such a trip.

I was trying to picture a possible situation. A thought excercise if you will.

 

[corrector]

I was trying to picture a possible situation. A thought excercise if you will.

That doesn't make me less shocked. You have been very vocal against this. Calling escorts a fringe type of women or that these types of topics don't belong on this section. If something is that far beneath you then there wouldn't be any possible scenario or situation where you would use one or picture using one.

I guess you are not as strongly against them as you've made yourself out to be then.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Partially true, but to think it’s easy for me to pick up a new chick is hilarious- it takes work as well. The way you look and behave only gets you a chance, it’s not a guarantee of success.

If I suddenly lost all my fwbs it would take me at least a mnoth to establish another steady chick and probably two years to reestablish my current roster’s numbers.

They can get any girl they want and have more women lined up then time to deal with them. Much like how you would feel in your catalogue of escorts. I'm sure people like @Hamurabimbi or @Pierce.Manhammer can get all what I"m sa ying. When you can pick up women like that then of course there is going to be a diconnect whenever this type of topic is brought up.

Both of them put in hard time and hours to improve their body to the point that they became attractive to women so they could like them naturally (as they have claimed) and view using escorts as a cop-out to doing the work needed to improve yourself.

 

[The Duke]

Because even those girls are super entitled and have too many options.

I wish I could date 9's and 10's. You know why I can't? It's not because of the reasons you listed. It's because I am not good enough. Could I get there? Probably. I've dated one 9 in my entire career of banging girls. Because of the work I put in, I can get 8's all day long now. They seem to be a good match for my SMV.

There was a time I sucked so bad I could barely score a 6 on a good day. I kept at it, improved my situation, and now I'm pleased with where I am.

Stop blaming your situation on others. Go date an HB1 if you have to. Sure beats banging a hooker that drips the voodoo goo on your jimmy.

 

[SW15]

Because of the work I put in, I can get 8's all day long now. They seem to be a good match for my SMV.

8's are good. If you can get 8's without getting married to them and falling into some of the traps of married life, that's a very good position for a 46 year old man.

The typical 46 year old married man is married to his early to mid 40s wife and they've been together 10+ years, if not 15+ years. Her SMV has declined and so has her attitude. He likely has 1-3 children with this wife he's been with for 15+ years. The oldest child is in junior high or high school at this point.

OR

Another typical 46 year old man is a divorced guy with a biatchy, likely out of shape ex-wife with whom he co-parents 1-3 children with an oldest child in junior high or high school. This is a divorce guy with a limited social circle who is trying to get laid/get into relationships using Bumble, Hinge, or Match. He might also occasionally try to approach with alcohol in his system at bars. He's generally making efforts with 39-45 year old women whose looks haven't held up well over time and many of them are divorced single moms. He could even be incel to borderline incel.

Your reality is better than the realities I just described.

There was a time I sucked so bad I could barely score a 6 on a good day. I kept at it, improved my situation, and now I'm pleased with where I am.

Having committed relationships with women in the 4.5 - 6 range doesn't sound good to me.

 

[GoodMan32]

That's allot of money on a salary that's like $ 35K per year. How are you able to splurge like that?

I do have a vacation pay from my full-time job. If I were a different type of guy then it would be tempting to take a one day vacation and splurge the vacation money on an escort, lol! I'm not that type of guy though.

Without going into a whole lot of detail, let's just say I have savings.

Am I wealthy? Not by any means. But my income doesn't tell the whole story.

Plus, I don't think I'm ever going to hire the escort who upsold me to 500 again. My escorts are generally in the 150-300 range.

 

[GoodMan32]

If you can't find girls willing to go out with you then why not date down until you find some?

Believe me, I've dated down. I've dated some fatties as well as a major nutjob.

 

[SW15]

Believe me, I've dated down. I've dated some fatties as well as a major nutjob.

That sounds unpleasant.

 

[GoodMan32]

I wish I could date 9's and 10's. You know why I can't? It's not because of the reasons you listed. It's because I am not good enough. Could I get there? Probably. I've dated one 9 in my entire career of banging girls. Because of the work I put in, I can get 8's all day long now. They seem to be a good match for my SMV.

There was a time I sucked so bad I could barely score a 6 on a good day. I kept at it, improved my situation, and now I'm pleased with where I am.

Stop blaming your situation on others. Go date an HB1 if you have to. Sure beats banging a hooker that drips the voodoo goo on your jimmy.

I know you weren't responding to me. But since I'm the OP (and since the guy you replied to has been backing me up throughout the thread), I'm going to chime in.

Being on the spectrum, I have a hard time even picking up on clues a woman is into me. Plus my instinct (of what to say when pursuing a woman) is often wrong.

 

[GoodMan32]

I wish I could date 9's and 10's. You know why I can't? It's not because of the reasons you listed. It's because I am not good enough. Could I get there? Probably. I've dated one 9 in my entire career of banging girls. Because of the work I put in, I can get 8's all day long now. They seem to be a good match for my SMV.

There was a time I sucked so bad I could barely score a 6 on a good day. I kept at it, improved my situation, and now I'm pleased with where I am.

Stop blaming your situation on others. Go date an HB1 if you have to. Sure beats banging a hooker that drips the voodoo goo on your jimmy.

Oh yeah, and one thing I get from escorts that I'm less likely to get from non-escorts:

I have a fetish that's every bit as important to me as the sex itself. Only one escort has ever turned down my fetish. Many non-escorts, however, think my fetish is strange/creepy.

 

[corrector]

Believe me, I've dated down. I've dated some fatties as well as a major nutjob.

That's great. You Took One for the Team for purposes of this discussion.

I was with a Black hb1 fattie a while back who was a Schizo on meds and yeah. When faced with a choice to drive 1-2 hour away vs visit an Latina hb 7 escort for $ 60 that's 5 min from my house, guess which option I choose on December 4/5, 2014? Notice I don't write anything much about her (ie mainly reserved to the old Luke Skywalker profile before that former alias got banned as even people on the old board were digusted with me that I went so low in my standards as to date someone like her), but the escort thing, as a discussion point simply sounds more interesting and exciting. It's like you can remember/feel great about being with a hb7+ escort, but a civvie that's low on the hb scale, not so much. Do you even see anyone even talking about going with hb 1-4s on here and being taken seriously, or anyone saying, "well done, at least you didn't go with an hb8+ escort?", because we both know that is totally NOTHING to write home about.

People who say something like that (ie dating down to an hb1, etc...) are just talking about of their a$$ sometimes. Like both of us have been there before, and like why would we want to go there again? It's not like we are 20 years old horn-dogs that hit a dry spell and now we will go with anybody like some rabid animal. Then the chadsplainers wonder why people do not listen to advice on here and get pissed off.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

You're right about escort inflation. I've had an obese escort charge me $500 (Her base price was $300. Then she added an extra hundred for kissing. Then an extra hundred for fetish)

Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10

 

[corrector]

Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10

You can see an 18 year old escort the same day if you want. You are only limited by your cash (ie and in my case, spiritual) as to how many woman you can see. Theoretically you could book 10 women on the same day. For example, if I were to go on a spree, I know various brothels which have a mix of 18-20 year old Spanish girls, others who have 50+ year old women, others that have Asians, etc.. which charge very cheap (ie $ 60 - $ 80). For under $ 1000 splurge you could realistically see 10 different women. That would just be insane and mind-bending.

 

[The Duke]

That's great. You Took One for the Team for purposes of this discussion.

I was with a Black hb1 fattie a while back who was a Schizo on meds and yeah. When faced with a choice to drive 1-2 hour away vs visit an Latina hb 7 escort for $ 60 that's 5 min from my house, guess which option I choose on December 4/5, 2014? Notice I don't write anything much about her (ie mainly reserved to the old Luke Skywalker profile before that former alias got banned as even people on the old board were digusted with me that I went so low in my standards as to date someone like her), but the escort thing, as a discussion point simply sounds more interesting and exciting. It's like you can remember/feel great about being with a hb7+ escort, but a civvie that's low on the hb scale, not so much. Do you even see anyone even talking about going with hb 1-4s on here and being taken seriously, or anyone saying, "well done, at least you didn't go with an hb8+ escort?", because we both know that is totally NOTHING to write home about.

People who say something like that (ie dating down to an hb1, etc...) are just talking about of their a$$ sometimes. Like both of us have been there before, and like why would we want to go there again? It's not like we are 20 years old horn-dogs that hit a dry spell and now we will go with anybody like some rabid animal. Then the chadsplainers wonder why people do not listen to advice on here and get pissed off.

Talking out of their azz because they say to date an HB1? Dude, you are at the bottom of the barrel. You are not far off from an HB1. You can not expect great things. You live with your parents, your job status has been questionable, your house is a mess, you aren't in good shape. These are enormous turn offs to women.

Here's the point you are missing...

So you went out with one girl that was an HB1 fattie. She turned out to be schizo. Ok, so what. Find another one that isn't a schizo. Did you do that??? I bet you didn't. You stopped right there.

Use these interactions as opportunities to better understand women and yourself. Learn to improve your game. Start improving the basics that I mentioned above so maybe HB3's or HB4's will go out with you.

Talk about entitlement.