"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Escalation past making out.

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I make out with my girl everyday but, that **** is getting old. Now I want to escalate it past that but, I can't have her at my place since every ones always home or hers. So how did you get you get your girl in the mood? Just start slowing creeping up or what. Any advice from Don Juans is appreciated.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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youngdon said:
I make out with my girl everydaybut, that **** is getting old. Now I want to escalate it past that but, I can't have her at my place since every ones always home or hers. So how did you get you get your girl in the mood? Just start slowing creeping up or what. Any advice from Don Juans is appreciated.
Just escalate. Move from kissing to caressing her. Kiss her neck and then go lower and lower. Then step back a bit. Two steps forward and then one back. Tease her.

Why are these people at your place and her place stopping you from getting to you? Can you get any privacy anywhere? Have they actually objected, or are you just worrying?
 

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When you're making out with her, start kiss her on the neck. Then slowly start kissing her lower and lower down her neck until you reach her breast area. If she's moaning this means she's really turned on and you can probably start fingering her, but don't rush into her pants yet. Rub her pvssy over whatever she's wearing, and if she's fine with it, put your hand in her pants over her panties, start rubbing there too. Don't forget to stop kissing her. I've also found it that girls like it when you nibble on their ear and talk dirty to them up close. I say stuff like "Oh man I want to put my finger in here so bad, but I don't know if you want that..." and at this stage they usually don't deny it, they'll tell me they'll want it or sometimes they even take their pants off themselves and remove their panties!

After that it's usually smooth sailing; if you don't fvck up you should be inside her vagina real soon but don't forget to use dirty talk and don't forget to stop kissing, those are the two things that are really the source for escalating. Remember that women like their whole bodies to be embraced, not just their vaginas.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
When you're making out with her, start kiss her on the neck. Then slowly start kissing her lower and lower down her neck until you reach her breast area. If she's moaning this means she's really turned on and you can probably start fingering her, but don't rush into her pants yet. Rub her pvssy over whatever she's wearing, and if she's fine with it, put your hand in her pants over her panties, start rubbing there too. Don't forget to stop kissing her. I've also found it that girls like it when you nibble on their ear and talk dirty to them up close. I say stuff like "Oh man I want to put my finger in here so bad, but I don't know if you want that..." and at this stage they usually don't deny it, they'll tell me they'll want it or sometimes they even take their pants off themselves and remove their panties!

After that it's usually smooth sailing; if you don't fvck up you should be inside her vagina real soon but don't forget to use dirty talk and don't forget to stop kissing, those are the two things that are really the source for escalating. Remember that women like their whole bodies to be embraced, not just their vaginas.
excellent post.
 
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