"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Escalating to kissing and/or more...advice

Prestige

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Alright..i'd like to start off by saying that last nite was a wicked nite. I went out to a big bonfire party with my cousin. I only knew about 3-4 people there out of about 35-40 people (all were older by about 2-3 years). I finally grew a set and last nite I said "**** IT!!!"... I talked to everybody there at least 1-2 times minimum and even managed to scoop a few ladies in the process, even got a BF pissed at me.

However, there was one thing I had a problem with.. both the girls I 'picked-up' were def. feeling me and one was even giving me the 'doggy dinner bowl' look and lots of playing and hitting hehe, but I just couldn't figure out how to escalate to bigger and better things. My mind just seemed to stop thinking once I got to that point.. then things started to get a bit 'stale' so I just bailed and went and talked to other people.

Any advice on how I could have escalated these 2 girls to kissing,touching, etc?

EDIT: Keep in mind this all took place outside, around a fire in a big sand pit
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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DasaniWater

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First and foremost, talk to them, establish some sort of dominance, make them very interested in you, start some Kino, then lead them outside of the scene into a more private part of the woods. The rest is pretty much so suave!
 

petah2001

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yeah I know where you're coming from. I have flirted with tons of girls with whom I could have taken it further but never could. The last time I made out with a girl at a party was when we were both sitting on the couch together and we started by complaining how we were the only sober people there and eventually our conversation kept on going and I inched closer and closer on the couch as we complimented eachother.

I believe the closer was when she complimented my hair and kind of stroked it, it was too easy from here and I did the same to her and brought my face to her and the rest was history.

Your situation sounds far more complicated, I hate that about open environments with no privacy. Body language is tricky when you're standing face to face with no physical contact so all I could reccomend is to move the conversation elsewhere. Just sit down somewhere invitingly, even if it's in the middle of nowhere.
 

Prestige

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ya, right on guys.. it was kinda hard being out in the open like that. Those 'pit parties' are an absolute blast though, and i recomend anyone in the area come check one out sometime.

As I was saying though, both girls were hard ass situations. One was there with her 'group' of guy friends that all want her and will never get her...so as soon as they see her talking to anybody they feel they have to interupt and ****, u know how it is. As for the other girl, her BF was hovering around all nite. Next time I guess i'll just say '**** IT!' even harder and just got for everything. peace

On a site note, the one girl ended up taking a cab home with me and 3 other people and i was the first stop. She kept asking me for money cuz she didnt hAve enough to get home. I todl her it was not my problem and that she should be prepared when she goes out drinking, all the while her guy friends were in the back going "ohh il give u money, its ok ill get u home". Did I handle that well?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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