"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Escalating and transitioning

Rossi

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Hey guys, just a quick one ...

Basically I've had this problem for a while now where I can set up a date no problems, sail through it all for a couple of hours doing whatever activity I chose for us to do with us both, but then when it comes to escalating things to a physical level it just well ... it doesn't happen.

For example last week I went out with a girl I'd met off a myspace equivalent, we instantly got on well and we were constantly laughing for about 2 hours over some drinks in the local bar. When it came time to wrap things up however I simply had NO clue how to take things from a platonic state to at least the point of kissing. I'd had her laughing at my goofyness, my jokes, demonstrated my serious side and had her agree with me on anything and everything, with a fair bit of kino thrown in when we both laugh at something BUT the net result was once again I go home empty handed - or with my right hand! - after controlling the date well and having a great time right up until that point. As a first meetup I wasn't bothered at all about wanting to have sex, I just wanted to *close it. I now feel like I've blown any sexual chance with her for not demonstrating, well, any lust for her.

I just wanted to get a discussion going on how you guys move things up a gear from just talking to the more physical side of things? I'm more interested in just talking--->kissing as kissing--->sex doesn't really trouble me so much - I've had problems with that before and know how to overcome LMR.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Simple. If you drive her,when you two take her out and you have arrived at your destination tell her "stay still for a second,your door is broken". Hop out of your side,open her door and leave your hand out to help her out. Then you can throw in "boy you are gulible",she will say "Whys that","Your door was never broken" and you can laugh away.
You two are walking in somewhere,get the door and put your hand on her waist and gently guide her in.
If she is estatic about something anything, just say "Hi five" and give her a high five.
If its clear you two are on a date,walk close to her to the point where you may brush up against her every once and awhile. If she doesnt like it she will move ******ds more.
 

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blinkwatt said:
Simple. If you drive her,when you two take her out and you have arrived at your destination tell her "stay still for a second,your door is broken". Hop out of your side,open her door and leave your hand out to help her out. Then you can throw in "boy you are gulible",she will say "Whys that","Your door was never broken" and you can laugh away.
You two are walking in somewhere,get the door and put your hand on her waist and gently guide her in.
If she is estatic about something anything, just say "Hi five" and give her a high five.
If its clear you two are on a date,walk close to her to the point where you may brush up against her every once and awhile. If she doesnt like it she will move ******ds more.
Yeah I do that anyway but it's not the sort of thing you do prior to kissing which is what I was trying to get at. :) I can do all that CF and jokey stuff fine, it's just the next step of making it physical which I'm having trouble with. I'd rather not be known as a guy who is just able to make her laugh but one who can do that and turn her on physically too.
 
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