"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Escalating and transitioning

Rossi

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Hey guys, just a quick one ...

Basically I've had this problem for a while now where I can set up a date no problems, sail through it all for a couple of hours doing whatever activity I chose for us to do with us both, but then when it comes to escalating things to a physical level it just well ... it doesn't happen.

For example last week I went out with a girl I'd met off a myspace equivalent, we instantly got on well and we were constantly laughing for about 2 hours over some drinks in the local bar. When it came time to wrap things up however I simply had NO clue how to take things from a platonic state to at least the point of kissing. I'd had her laughing at my goofyness, my jokes, demonstrated my serious side and had her agree with me on anything and everything, with a fair bit of kino thrown in when we both laugh at something BUT the net result was once again I go home empty handed - or with my right hand! - after controlling the date well and having a great time right up until that point. As a first meetup I wasn't bothered at all about wanting to have sex, I just wanted to *close it. I now feel like I've blown any sexual chance with her for not demonstrating, well, any lust for her.

I just wanted to get a discussion going on how you guys move things up a gear from just talking to the more physical side of things? I'm more interested in just talking--->kissing as kissing--->sex doesn't really trouble me so much - I've had problems with that before and know how to overcome LMR.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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blinkwatt

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Simple. If you drive her,when you two take her out and you have arrived at your destination tell her "stay still for a second,your door is broken". Hop out of your side,open her door and leave your hand out to help her out. Then you can throw in "boy you are gulible",she will say "Whys that","Your door was never broken" and you can laugh away.
You two are walking in somewhere,get the door and put your hand on her waist and gently guide her in.
If she is estatic about something anything, just say "Hi five" and give her a high five.
If its clear you two are on a date,walk close to her to the point where you may brush up against her every once and awhile. If she doesnt like it she will move ******ds more.
 

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blinkwatt said:
Simple. If you drive her,when you two take her out and you have arrived at your destination tell her "stay still for a second,your door is broken". Hop out of your side,open her door and leave your hand out to help her out. Then you can throw in "boy you are gulible",she will say "Whys that","Your door was never broken" and you can laugh away.
You two are walking in somewhere,get the door and put your hand on her waist and gently guide her in.
If she is estatic about something anything, just say "Hi five" and give her a high five.
If its clear you two are on a date,walk close to her to the point where you may brush up against her every once and awhile. If she doesnt like it she will move ******ds more.
Yeah I do that anyway but it's not the sort of thing you do prior to kissing which is what I was trying to get at. :) I can do all that CF and jokey stuff fine, it's just the next step of making it physical which I'm having trouble with. I'd rather not be known as a guy who is just able to make her laugh but one who can do that and turn her on physically too.
 
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