"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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engineering schoo:l how's the prospects?

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For a bit of light hearted discussion and b/c i have to go to one:

Does anyone have expereince picking up in a science/engineering (im trying avoid certain words) college?

- Would u be better off or worse off than a liberal arts oriented college girlwise? (e.g. you do have less competition don't you)

-How are the girls: better/worse/"guy hating"/guy "loving"?

- Are there any pretty girls at all? (plz don't lie and disappoint
me :p)

- Are guys there total nerds? (hey i want some friends too you know)

-Anything you have to do differently?

So in generally, what experiences do you guys have?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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What you believe is true.

Mad, but true.

Yes, engineering courses etc have more men, nursing and arts have more women.

Yes the women doing art are easier to get on with.

I don't agree with it all but that's the way it seems to be.

One thing is definately clear: women on `masculine` courses have more men around them so your chances aren't so good.

At one stage I joined a course in the 3rd year and on the course there were no prospects at all.

But art school will get you nowhere.

Go to engineering school by day and yoga classes by night ;)
 

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So why do you have to go to one?

- Would u be better off or worse off than a liberal arts oriented college girlwise? (e.g. you do have less competition don't you)
This really depends on the school you are at. If you are going to a small strictly tech place like Harvey Mudd, Rose Hulman or Bucknell it may be tough. If you are off to somewhere like MIT, UIUC or UMich it may be a bit easier. I aint gonna lie there are very few girls in engineering no matter where you are though. It also depends on the field. In my experience upper level EE,ME and MSE are pretty much classes filled with guys. From my understanding BME, Civil and IE are a bit better for woman. this all really depends on where you are at and either way at bigger schools you will be taking gen. eds. with hundreds of people anyways from all majors. As for science there actually are a hell of a lot of girls around. More so it seems than engineering.

I'm going to tell you straight up though the work is a pain in the ass. A lot of people dont make it out of the first year and I really dont blame them. Unless it is something that you are truly interested in it almost isn't worth the time.
 

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If you go to an all out engineering school you will be ****ed regarding chicks. Unless the school offers bio-medical engineering, there's some pretty hot chicks doing that (at least where I am, there's like a couple of HB8s). The few chicks that are doing engineering will probably be more interested in studying then in dating, and they will most likely be at best hb6.

Basically, if you are looking to pick up chicks, don't go to an engineering school. If you are looking for a job after graduation, then go to an engineering school.


Also, check to see if your school offers a 'double-degree'. That way you can do Eng + somethingelse. I'm doing Mech-Eng/Com, so I get a nice balance (there's alot of chicks in Commerce).
 

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well this is kinda what i expected to hear (disspointingly but thanks for not lying lol). What would you do in this situation? I wanted to be a tech entrepreneur so i needed an engineering degree anyways so thats not an option.
Maybe use the library you think?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by someperson12


So in generally, what experiences do you guys have?
no experience personally. But I do know that some engineering schools, such wentworth institute, georgia tech, worchester polytech, rochester polytech are all about 70-80% men.

While, in liberal arts schools, it's usually 50-65% women.

So of course, you'd be better off going to a liberal arts college to meet women.

Anyways, I go to a business school, where it's close to a 2 to 1 guy to girl ratio (making it tough to meet women).

But if you're a true DJ, then you'll meet women regardless to the percentages of women.

Don't let women hold you back on your aspirations of becoming an engineer, but I'd suggest a state university over a small engineering school (if your goal it to meet lots of women).
 

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out of curiousity I just looked up the stats for my school which is a huge state school with a top ten engineering program. 20% women. The highest % women of all departments was chemical and biomed followed closely by industrial. Damn thats a shame. It actually seems like it is even worse than that in some classes though.

Yeah take up yoga classes and study in the library.
 

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Don't choose your career based on how many chicks you'll get with at college...
 

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This is your future you are toying with, don't base what school you go to on the number of chicks in that school. If what you want to do in life is engineering then find out the best school to teach you.

A DJ bases his life around what he wants to do and accomplish in life. Girls shouldn't even enter into the equation.

Now, go find the best engineering school. and if you want chicks, then go hit a mall or some other place.
 

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Originally posted by Spacebar
Don't choose your career based on how many chicks you'll get with at college...
Haha. Thanks Spacebar, but I wasn't looking for emergency advice or anything. I just wanted a light discussion about how it was like at engineering school thats all.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Engineering female students tend to be average and below, rarely will you ever pick up on someone that is super attractive. If she were, she'd rather be more in the public where she can talk to individuals rather than "engineering" the plans on a desk for hours on end by herself.
 

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I'm first year engineering. We don't specialise until next year, but we have about one hundread guys and five girls in our year. All I can say is that they are lucky *****'s. They are all probably average looks, but everybody hits on them because they are unique and probably seem hotter because there are no other girls around.
 

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^^ you in sydney?

i'll go out on a limb here..but i've seen a couple of HB8 doing biomed eng.
 

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I go to Georgia Tech. WORST ****ING PLACE IN THE WORLD FOR AN ASPIRING DJ. I'm Asian so I've only been going for the Asian chicks. A majority of the girls will be ugly. The ones that aren't will most likely have boyfriends. Every girls think they are 2 lvls above what they really are, because so many desparate guys hit on them. If they are engineering and you are as well, there will be little time to see each other. Oh yea, all the hot girls know each other which makes it a pain.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by someperson12
how do you guys generally work around this problem?
go to a university, join a frat, and don't worry about the % of women in your engineering classes.

Again, and DJ will be a DJ regardless of the percentages.
 

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I go to a college where there is few girls, mostly male computer geeks, and theres a total of about two attatcive girls in all my classes...

It sucks I suppose, but whatever theres plenty of places to meet girls other than school....

But if your going away, then pick a school with girls... cuz im living at home, so theres plent of girls at other colleges around etc...
 
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