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I think that there is a growing disease that I see in American society, one that is consuming it slowly. The disease of victimhood. This disease is replacing integrity and self-respect, with weakness and fragility. The main reason for my dislike of feminism, and a number of other “victimhood” movements is mainly because it is the vector and incubator of this disease. I think that this disease has festered so far that it is now a part of the very society that we live in, if not defining of the society itself.

Let me explain… In our current society the victim has power. If you do not see this as being a fact, then you are blind. These victims show that they are victimized. They do this even if they are not actual victims. They will do this even to very minor slights, even if they are just perceived and not actual. Through this display of victimization, they gain pity and petition to the strong to that they must be given power. Thus, people gain power through weakness. They gain political power, social power, personal power over others, and more. By identifying as a victim you are not making a display of weakness, you are instead gaining power over others. Thus, they have nothing to gain by empowering themselves… For if they did such, they would lose their position as the victim and all the strength that they hold over it. When power is drawn from a position of weakness instead of strength, that is a dysfunctional juxtaposition of natural law. It is also dysfunctional to society itself. In nature weakness is preyed upon, and the weak learn to be strong or they shall not survive. Just the same, society and civilization does not thrive on weakness and victimhood, it is the strong who rise above their station and who empower themselves that move it forward.

Instead of seeing power as earned, they instead see privilege. Instead of working to improve their lives they instead cry about how unfair the world is to them. Instead of rising up from victimhood, instead of taking on the unfairness of life head on and rising above it they instead desire to fall deeper into victimhood and wallow in it.

I am not saying victims do not exist… Some people are truly victims, there can be such circumstances. But I would hope that they would not seek to remain one, and would instead seek to empower themselves past their victimhood. What I am saying is that we live in a society that is promoting victimhood, and that some people no longer seek to be empowered but to instead be the victim.

How can we cure this disease?
 

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when you have to work your ass to bring food to the table, you have to take care of a numerous family, you have to help your family, and you have real opportunities to realise yourself through traditional organizations, you don't have the time to look for injustices everywhere and you have the means to focus your problems and give them an explanation that keeps them at bay.
In case I'm not being clear, there is not a cure unless we regress to a state of lesser commodities. The human being is just like that.
 

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TRUMP 2016 if you want to end victimhood and entitlement.
 

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We can't, it was made this way so that the country was ripe for hostile takeover by the Chinese, thank Bill Clinton and his idiot wife for that. If Hillary gets in you will see it first hand, they are already all over SF, and they are the biggest holders of US debt. The solution is simple, tax the hell out of multinational corporations and bring manufacturing back to the USA. Limp wrists do not manufacture anything or hit back.

Not made in the USA? Not sold in the USA!
 
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when you have to work your ass to bring food to the table, you have to take care of a numerous family, you have to help your family, and you have real opportunities to realise yourself through traditional organizations, you don't have the time to look for injustices everywhere and you have the means to focus your problems and give them an explanation that keeps them at bay.
In case I'm not being clear, there is not a cure unless we regress to a state of lesser commodities. The human being is just like that.
Well said. Schopenhauer explained this as the 2 poles of life: need and boredom. Once your needs are filled, you get restless. You suddenly crave variety in your life.

The reason people with a victim mentality are constantly looking for something to rage against is because they have low self-confidence and a lack of meaning in their lives.
 

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We can't, it was made this way so that the country was ripe for hostile takeover by the Chinese, thank Bill Clinton and his idiot wife for that. If Hillary gets in you will see it first hand, they are already all over SF, and they are the biggest holders of US debt. The solution is simple, tax the hell out of multinational corporations and bring manufacturing back to the USA. Limp wrists do not manufacture anything or hit back.

Not made in the USA? Not sold in the USA!
No they are not. China only owns about 9% of USA foreign debt. Japan owns about 9% or more.

Most of us debt is within our borders.

You're ridiculous and extremely uninformed for believing this.

That being said even if China called in the little debt we owe them it would hurt then more not give them any advantage.

How could you possibly believe that.
 

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We can't, it was made this way so that the country was ripe for hostile takeover by the Chinese, thank Bill Clinton and his idiot wife for that. If Hillary gets in you will see it first hand, they are already all over SF, and they are the biggest holders of US debt. The solution is simple, tax the hell out of multinational corporations and bring manufacturing back to the USA. Limp wrists do not manufacture anything or hit back.

Not made in the USA? Not sold in the USA!
 

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We can't, it was made this way so that the country was ripe for hostile takeover by the Chinese, thank Bill Clinton and his idiot wife for that. If Hillary gets in you will see it first hand, they are already all over SF, and they are the biggest holders of US debt. The solution is simple, tax the hell out of multinational corporations and bring manufacturing back to the USA. Limp wrists do not manufacture anything or hit back.

Not made in the USA? Not sold in the USA!
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China and U.S. Debt
The largest portion of U.S. debt, 68 cents for every dollar or about $10 trillion, is owned by individual investors, corporations, state and local governments and, yes, even foreign governments such as China that hold Treasurybills, notes and bonds.

Foreign governments hold about 46 percent of all U.S. debt held by the public, more than $4.5 trillion. The largest foreign holder of U.S. debt is China, which owns more about $1.2 trillion in bills, notes and bonds, according to the Treasury.

In total, China owns about 8 percent of publicly held U.S. debt. Of all the holders of U.S. debt China is the third-largest, behind only the Social Security Trust Fund's holdings of nearly $3 trillion and the Federal Reserve's nearly $2 trillion holdings in Treasury investments, purchased as part of its quantitative easingprogram to boost the economy.

Criticism of China Owning U.S. Debt
To put China's ownership of U.S. debt in perspective, its holding of $1.2 trillion is even larger than the amount owned by American households.


U.S. citizens hold only about $959 billion in U.S. debt, according to the Federal Reserve.

Other large foreign holders of U.S. debt include Japan, which owns $912 billion; the United Kingdom, which owns $347 billion; Brazil, which holds $211 billion; Taiwan, which holds $153 billion; and Hong Kong, which owns $122 billion."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/ss/How-Much-US-Debt-Does-China-Own.htm

You're literally ignorant. Mr. anti America. China has no leverage on us. We leverage on them. Their economy only grew to what it is because of us. All we have to do is tax their imports and they're fvcked.
 

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fcked? hardly, they still have a functioning infrastructure. Unless trump gets in, you guys are the ones who are fcked.
 

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Great post OP. Sounds like something straight out of Atlas Shrugged - a must read for all of you believers in capitalism: that the doers and thus the successful should be rewarded, not the incompetant and the excuse makers/blamers/lazy/victims.
 

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How can we cure this disease?
Societal collapse is a one way ride. This will only get worse. I suspect the only "cure" will come when the dollar loses its reserve status. However, since there are no legitimate heirs to the dollar throne, it will likely die a slow and protracted death. I believe that the U.S. (and its client states) will go down in a Roman-esque collapse. Followed by a lot of death (lot of productivity=food is based on globally dependent economies of scale) and a return to SMALL SCALE living. THAT is when victimhood will end. Give it a few hundred years.

OR

It (the death of victimhood) could come from massive immigration ( Europe) where people literally take up arms to defend themselves on a daily basis. But then again, that's pretty "Roman." (Visigoths, Vandals, etc.)

BOTTOM LINE

our society is dying, as all societies do. what does one do when one has an incurable disease?
 

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Something like a thousand people a day get lung cancer in China from air pollution.
According to UNICEF, there are approximately 16 million babies born every year in China. There are 525,600 minutes per year, which means there 30 babies born per minute. India and China together contribute to almost 40% of the world population. This means that 4 out of 10 people in the world are Indians and Chinese.I think they can afford 1000 people a day.


This country is not just going to lay down and die because America says so. They produce goods for EVERY country in the world. These people are born and bred soldiers at birth, how do a bunch of limp wristed faggot lovers hope to compete? You better pray to god Trump gets elected or start making plans to move.
 
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They produce goods for EVERY country in the world.

Someone has to buy all that cheap sh!t. That's the problem.

China's government lies so much about their economic numbers, it's like talking to North Korea. That's why the US and global markets are tanking right now. It looks like China is one big Enron. They've been faking their data for years.
 

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China was a long con from the get go. The U.S. opens up the market for cheap chinese crap, and with the dollars we use to buy that cheap crap, they buy U.S. debt. The massive increase in spending in China pretty much propped up the world after 2008, but now that con has run it's course. Now EVERYBODY is expecting a huge Chinese deleveraging in 2016. It's also why commodities are generally tanking, China has stopped buying them.

Just today they announced they were laying off SIX MILLION government workers. to Curb "overcapacity" and pollution. the reason the Canadian real estate market is SO HOT now despite the plunge in oil prices (and the entire canadian ecomomy) is RICH CHINESE are desperate to get their money OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

Bitcoin is also involved, as buying bitcoin is one way chinese dudes can send their money out of the country, as each citizen can only legally move $50K overseas.

China today is like Japan was back in the 80's 90's. Everybody thought they were THE SHYTE but it was really one big ponzi bubble. Once it pops, it is GAME OVER.
 

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Growth rate is not the measure of a healthy economy. China has to many people that are going to wake up and realize they're being taken advantage of. China has a large lower class, large upper class and a tiny middle class.

Having a large and growing middle class is important because it means people are moving up from lower class and going from upper class to middle class.

Anything else is a recipe for an unstable society.
 
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