"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I've read the bible and everything and I noticed that they talk about speaking to a girls emotions and focusing the conversation more around feelings..how do you do that in regular conversation because I still don't completely understand.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You have to "give" emotions to the girl. Make her feel sad, curious, happy, surprised, protected, awkward ...everything. In the sandbox you pulled their hair, made fun of them... you made them laught. in that age that was the way to do it. As we get older we start to think that politeness and perfect conversation skills will distinguish us from the loosers. False. Give her emotions.
I cant give you any universal tips on that ...i used to rely on the situation, on the place where i am with her, and the things she tells to me about herself.
Try to find out what you have in common ...it is also a good source.
You have to practice it...

If anyone could give some universal tips it would be appreciated.
 

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You have to "give" emotions to the girl. Make her feel sad, curious, happy, surprised, protected, awkward ...everything.
I don't doubt that this is effective, but I have yet to see anyone give solid specific tips on how to do this, other than doing a bit of push/pull. It seems like it would be very complicated to set out to do this intentionally.

It seems like you would have to be thinking too much all the time. Like keeping a list of emotions you want to put her through: "Okay, I've been through happy, surprised, and protected, now I have to make her feel awkward". I find it hard picturing a natural interaction this way.
 

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zekko said:
I don't doubt that this is effective, but I have yet to see anyone give solid specific tips on how to do this, other than doing a bit of push/pull. It seems like it would be very complicated to set out to do this intentionally.

It seems like you would have to be thinking too much all the time. Like keeping a list of emotions you want to put her through: "Okay, I've been through happy, surprised, and protected, now I have to make her feel awkward". I find it hard picturing a natural interaction this way.
You are right, its not a natural way of giving emotions to her.
If there is a bad boy in her social circle he gives her emotions without knowing it, ...first he enters her group he makes her feel afraid, then protected, then curious(who is this guy, why is he so cool, i want to know more about him), then as they talk he makes her laught(as she is trying to ask him logical questions, and he just blows them away by funny answers), then he makes her angry by making fun of her nice-guy friends... he also makes her surprised by not caring what the others think about him ...you know what i mean. Thats why usual dates are unnatural for us guys... we have to do this, we have to do that. But we still score....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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If there is a bad boy in her social circle he gives her emotions without knowing it, ...first he enters her group he makes her feel afraid, then protected, then curious(who is this guy, why is he so cool, i want to know more about him), then as they talk he makes her laught(as she is trying to ask him logical questions, and he just blows them away by funny answers), then he makes her angry by making fun of her nice-guy friends... he also makes her surprised by not caring what the others think about him ...you know what i mean. Thats why usual dates are unnatural for us guys... we have to do this, we have to do that. But we still score....
That's a very good way of describing it.

I was thinking about this whole "bad boy" thing the other day. It seems to me the one consistent thing about most guys I've known who have genuine bad boy appeal is they put out this vibe that they can, and will, beat someone's @ss if they get out of line. Which triggers in the girl some of the emotions you mentioned - feeling afraid, then protected. I'm thinking guys who don't have this vibe don't really have the bad boy appeal. Does anyone disagree?

I knew this one guy he was very gentlemanly with the women, but if a guy was acting like a clown he would call them on it, and make them "apologize to the lady" (dominating some of the guys around him). I thought he rather obviously did it make himself look good but they ate it up.
 

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If you don't know what to do just tease them relentlessly. always in a joking manner though
This is good advice. You almost can't go wrong with playfully teasing a girl, and it does spark a variety of emotions in her. Surprise, indignation, laughter, comfort, affection, awkwardness, all these things can be brought about by teasing.
 

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maqnetik said:
you have to be able to tap that vibe in yourself before you can postulate on others
There is no reason to try it when you have no backup for it(...you have no power).
...i`ve also been in situations(incidents on the street) where i acted powerless but kept my self control 100percent ...and the girls around fell for it. I have no clue how can self-control defeat raw power in the eyes of girls. Unhappily ...very few join to this topic.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You are right, its not a natural way of giving emotions to her.
If there is a bad boy in her social circle he gives her emotions without knowing it, ...first he enters her group he makes her feel afraid, then protected, then curious(who is this guy, why is he so cool, i want to know more about him), then as they talk he makes her laught(as she is trying to ask him logical questions, and he just blows them away by funny answers), then he makes her angry by making fun of her nice-guy friends... he also makes her surprised by not caring what the others think about him ...you know what i mean. Thats why usual dates are unnatural for us guys... we have to do this, we have to do that. But we still score....
If you don't know what to do just tease them relentlessly. always in a joking manner though

These two things will attract women. Period. Its the roller coaster effect.
 

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Anytime I talk to a girl I replaced the word "think" with "feel". It works wonders. Try it.

Pretty much you have to over-ride her logic. Make her make decisions off of emotions rather than rationality. That's how you get ONS's.
 

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Alien said:
There is no reason to try it when you have no backup for it(...you have no power).
...i`ve also been in situations(incidents on the street) where i acted powerless but kept my self control 100percent ...and the girls around fell for it. I have no clue how can self-control defeat raw power in the eyes of girls. Unhappily ...very few join to this topic.
deep down they all want a master who can tell them what theyre feeling
 

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maqnetik said:
deep down they all want a master who can tell them what theyre feeling
I dont really understand this^^

They are attracted to it because a nice-guy cannot give them emotions. He stays under the radar all the time. If you have power(power in your muscles, high social status, bada$$ friends, cop friends, money, etc ...having good social skills also means power) you have a cool vibe, because you know that you can handle almost every situation and problem. You are secure. You are not afraid to tell what you think or do what you want. This way you give them emotions without realizing it.

Being a master or a leader is a totally different stuff.
 
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