Emotional affairs are a sign of disrespect?

[Gamisch]

Good point! And I agree. Achieving a healthy balance is best. Between togetherness and distance.

A bit of push/pull not as a game but to achieve balance?

Some like that...

That's why I prefer to gradually go up in intensity.

Unfortunately qoute on qoute, most wonen I've ever encountered who were feeling me indeed wanted 100 right away.

My biggest mistake ij those cases was I wasn't willing to take a (longer term) L and eject immediately....

 

[Gamisch]

Often yes.

The nice guy/beta guy can absolutely form an emotional connection without sex. But he’s much less likely to get to the sex part, so it’s probably a moot point lol.

That's why the nice guy been exposed long time ago.

It's unhealthy to play that role as a man. Once nice guy ;
1. Finds out what FECKING means..
2. Understands she's been getting FECKED by anybody except him

Nice guy turn into extremely not nice person...

The era of the spoiled woman /women is over. (Thread worthy !!) Economic times will be extremely challenging thus most men fall back on their saving habits. No more 100 bucks for a maybe date... Combine that with the popularity of the RP and its BACK to house-motherhood for most women..

 

[Vanderdonck]

Listen fellas!!!

Your woman will ALWAYS have an emotional thing with other men. Anything above hb4 at least...

The busdriver, the neighbour, the guy at the gym, your best friend....

Better learn to :
-never give 100% so you can detach whenever you need to
- be secure in who YOU are. Build YOURSELF up, regardless of her path in life
accepting is key. It only hurts if it bothers you
- be a fecking king. Be the emperor. Never let a bytch move you into self destruction mode ( again)

That's it folks

This. Just be as independent as you can and accept that people will do what they want and be confident you can handle anything.

Long term monogamy is a forced way to live anyway.

 

[Manure Spherian]

^^The irony is if you don't give 100% and hold back on providing the emotional connection she needs (enabling you to detach whenever), you're actually driving her to seek that connection from/with another man...

Does this imply men should be on a 24-7-running hamster wheel for giving women the feels, and then if they brake, women are to bounce?

I think so. And that’s what “girlfriends” do. Hence there is no “cheating” on girlfriends.

Women are the real players folks.

 

[jhonny9546]

Long-term monogamy is a forced way to live anyway.

It really is when both parties feel that making sacrifices, compromises, and making an effort to meet their needs is no longer something you do for "love," but something you do because "it has to be done."

There are other couples who manage to maintain it. Good for them.

Do you know what I mean?


What's your perspective on LTR's@Vanderdonck?
My guess is that you'll have more monogamous relationships in your life.
It sounds good. A bit like school or work: you spend 3-5 years with the same group of people, pursuing the same goals, and then you change.

I admire those who find their place in the world, both in work and in relationships.

Your woman will ALWAYS have an emotional thing with other men.

What you say is absolutely true.

Now let's put ourselves from the perspective of a man who sees this woman as having an emotional interest in him.

He knows full well that he can start something with her, whether it's sex or a relationship.
But if there were more men and fewer boys out there, there would also be fewer women ready to cheat.

It all depends on your values. The opportunities are endless.

 

[Gamisch]

This. Just be as independent as you can and accept that people will do what they want and be confident you can handle anything.

Long term monogamy is a forced way to live anyway.

Unfortunately the depth of even sosauve isn't..all that to put it nicely.

Cause to me it's crazy that we talk about game ,women ect but fail to mention amd discuss what's going on in a woman's world/ life. If you'd be a "fly on the wall" most men would really quick be cured and I geuss it's disheartening to learn that women are way more ruthless than most men. There's a reason why so many women love horror movies...just to name one example.

After a man starts to understand this better he can move on from his Disney fairytale state of mind. A lotta levels beyond that and poof, you suddenly start to understand that something as...common as your girl having emotional affairs left and right is "normal".

 

[Sega Genesis]

Does this imply men should be on a 24-7-running hamster wheel for giving women the feels, and then if they brake, women are to bounce?

No it does not imply that.
Did you miss this?

Not sure what the answer is except perhaps
try and find a balance between providing the emotional connection she needs and maintaining your frame of autonomy and independence?

And this...

And I agree. Achieving a healthy balance is best. Between togetherness and distance.

Either extreme rarely works. It's all about finding the right balance so both your needs can be met.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Does this imply men should be on a 24-7-running hamster wheel for giving women the feels, and then if they brake, women are to bounce?

It's astute to NOT cease doing what made us entrancing to begin with, once we've gone exclusive. Otherwise, we become less appealing than celebrities who become self-important enough to think audiences have any desire to hear their(more often than not inane) thoughts on sociopolitical matters

 

[Vanderdonck]

It really is when both parties feel that making sacrifices, compromises, and making an effort to meet their needs is no longer something you do for "love," but something you do because "it has to be done."

There are other couples who manage to maintain it. Good for them.

Do you know what I mean?


What's your perspective on LTR's@Vanderdonck?
My guess is that you'll have more monogamous relationships in your life.
It sounds good. A bit like school or work: you spend 3-5 years with the same group of people, pursuing the same goals, and then you change.

I am in one and have been for a while. I don't think of it as a sacrifice since it's something I enjoy. IME if you have to sacrifice then something is amiss. That goes for business and personal relationships. The best involve two parties getting what they want out of it, not compromising or laboring to make something work.

 

[plumber]

Unfortunately the depth of even sosauve isn't..all that to put it nicely.

Cause to me it's crazy that we talk about game ,women ect but fail to mention amd discuss what's going on in a woman's world/ life. If you'd be a "fly on the wall" most men would really quick be cured and I geuss it's disheartening to learn that women are way more ruthless than most men. There's a reason why so many women love horror movies...just to name one example.

After a man starts to understand this better he can move on from his Disney fairytale state of mind. A lotta levels beyond that and poof, you suddenly start to understand that something as...common as your girl having emotional affairs left and right is "normal".

its how they are made.

um... its chemical.

don't really try this... but if you intentionally lower your e, you will feel like crap and get really irritated and bitchy. if you cause your e to go to high for you, you will get overly emotional. its not just a smooth up and down, it actually changes how you think not just how you feel. its wild.... when the ratio is just right, your libido will rocket to the moon.

women go through something like this all the time, every month. after you have felt it for yourself... it will make sense how and why they do what they do. its not just about feel good/feel bad. it effects how we/they think. for example right and wrong... as a man if you can get and stay healthy you can be solid and stable. she never will until being old and even then not like you can.

when we say mood swing... its an identity change. its stronger than morals.

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Being a good player simply means knowing how this works and working with it instead of fighting it.

And yes, every woman to man relationship is a form of emotional affair. Woman will sometimes try to control the escalation but due to mood changes often can not because at some mood she does not want to control it.

its not who, its what.

 

[jhonny9546]

I just had to look at something like this...

My wife contacted her hs bf on fb,it was an EA but then the texting and the phone calls started and became way more frequent,om was a player who now turns out is a warped possible dangerous individual,yeah its started slow,then they started meeting,it was only 3-4 times,nothing physical except for a couple quick pecks on the lips,makes me sick.

Then the I loves yous started,first by him and after awhile she responded in kind,at the time me and WW were in MC,I knew something was up,just couldnt put my finger on who,at first I did'nt believe it,hell I had the gut feeling but denide it for awhile.

Even when I finally dragged it out of her she still wanted to "date" the OM,tried to have me leave,told me she wanted him and did'nt love me at all. Begged her to stop,all I saw was her head shaking back and forth "No,I want to date him,I want him,I dont want you!"
Good God I'm going off here...sorry.

Her EA almost destroyed our family,the OM still calls and taunts and says some vile,and I mean fvcking vile things. I'm in the proccess of taking care of him he's scared now.

An EA where all fantasys come true is the biggest hoax of humankind.
Yes,in my mind physical and its over.

Never under estimate the damage that an EA can to to the BS.And in a rare occasion to the WW who hates themselve

this is the response

An EA can lead into a long slow death of a marriage, while a PA could have ended it in a day. This is the problem with an EA. You never know where you stand, you never know if its a fantasy or something that was going to be real, you never know if she really loved him (she didn't sleep with him!), you never know if she really meant all those bad things she said, because she technically never left you, you never know how she felt about him, and you feel like a rebound forever. You feel like 2nd place, the guy she stayed with because she was already married, not the guy she WANTED anymore. She made the "smart" choice when she was caught and stuck with the safe option, but in her heart, if she was young and single, she wouldn't have chose you. You never know if his talk of sex was better than your actual sex.

This is the sh*t you deal with in an EA. This is only the TIP of the iceberg.

I do believe, the response is a good way to get that reality check, while in the first comment, they were suggesting to forget about that, and to blame the man she was having an EA

 

[jhonny9546]

They even say you can keep that relationship after an EA or PA