"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hatsuharu

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Well for starters, I've been a long time lurker, and now, first time poster. Now that is out of the way...

I met a HB7.5/8 on myspace about a week ago and ever since we've been exchanging random fluff messages. I suggested we meet up and we ended up talking about some new waterpark (she brought it up).

Here's how our messages have went. (first two lines are paraphrased cuz I don't have them anymore)

her: what if I'm some internet predator or something?
me: Then I'll kick your ass.
her: I'm actually the sweetest thing ever! If you beat me up then I wont buy you icecream.
me: Sweetest thing ever, eh? I'll believe it when I see it. Icecream is a good start, I'll give you props. But you will have to do better than that to make me happy. :p
her: What? I'm keeping YOU happy? No, no. You must be confused. You're here to make ME happy. Lol
me: Yes, you are keeping me happy. But, I'll make you a sweet deal, YOU make ME happy first, and then I'll make you happy. This way, we're both happy people! :)
her: Hmpphh!! I'll think about it.
me: What's there to think about? Imagine yourself running around having fun, eating ice cream and having the time of your life! How can one say no to that??
her: Well when you put it that way.. lol


I don't know if that last line is positive/negative/neutral. and I'm not quite sure how to respond to it. Suggestions? My idea was "So give me your phone number and I'll call you when I am free to go."

And last thing, my buddies were all gonna go to this park in about 2 weeks (after school is out for them). Another idea I had was to invite her out to coffee or something a week or so before that and then invite her to tag along to the waterpark. Yay/nay?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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xectxny19x

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Just give her two options: the waterpark or meet for coffee first & see where it goes.

I don't think going to the waterpark w/ her & your friends is a good idea. You want to isolate her first & bring in the friends later. :rockon:
 

Hatsuharu

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The more I think about it, the more I don't want to do either. Coffee seems a bit too cliche and the waterpark seems way too "big" of an event for a chick I haven't even met irl.

I'm starting to lean towards having her be my personal shopping assistant for a couple of hours and help me knock off a few things on the to-get list for my summer wardrobe. I get to interact with her + get some shopping done. And if all goes well, maybe do the waterpark next time. Anything wrong with inviting her to shop with me?
 

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where you do not expect me :)
i only invite girl "friends" to do shopping with me .
in my opinion , it's not realy a good idea .why not just stick to coffee, seems a reasonable idea.
one more thing , i think that i ur last lines , it seemed like u were convincing her ( which in my opinion shift the power to her side :( ) = bad thing.
 
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