ElStud gives a little more advice on approaching.

[WaRpEd]

Well I didn't read through all the responses and/or flames. But it does sound like Elstud has made atleast some improvement since I last checked into the forums.

 

[ElStud]

Well I didn't read through all the responses and/or flames. But it does sound like Elstud has made atleast some improvement since I last checked into the forums.

The fact that you guys care so much is A. The first sign that you have bigger problems than women. I'll leave it at that.

 

[WaRpEd]

huh...wasnt expecting that sort of negative response

What ev

Good luck with the game of life man :wave:

 

[I'm in the Mood]

The fact that you guys care so much is A. The first sign that you have bigger problems than women. I'll leave it at that.

That was real cold bro. Don't do dat.

 

[ElStud]

That was real cold bro. Don't do dat.

You can shut up. All you do is f*cking criticize people. You are being a hypocrite. Don't do "dat". If you didn't have bigger problems than women you wouldn't be such haters and you wouldn't care so much. Half of you f*ckers don't even have the balls to approach and you're STILL hating. Your problems are waaaaay above and beyond women.

 

[theunflushables]

You can shut up. All you do is f*cking criticize people. You are being a hypocrite. Don't do "dat". If you didn't have bigger problems than women you wouldn't be such haters and you wouldn't care so much. Half of you f*ckers don't even have the balls to approach and you're STILL hating. Your problems are waaaaay above and beyond women.

Yes, Mike, our problems are WAAY bigger than women. Only AFCs allow women to become their main concern in life. Getting laid, not getting laid, whatever it's not that big of a concern for most of us because we don't need women for validation. So, and its strange for me to say this, for once you are right, we have much bigger problems than women. We're more concerned about living our own lives to its fullest not what a certain woman expects.

Don't let you being right for once in your life go to your head. You're a smug little bastard as it is. Just remember even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Now, respond with something other than your usual "all knowing d1ck riding ass pirate" remarks.

 

[ElStud]

Yes, Mike, our problems are WAAY bigger than women. Only AFCs allow women to become their main concern in life. Getting laid, not getting laid, whatever it's not that big of a concern for most of us because we don't need women for validation. So, and its strange for me to say this, for once you are right, we have much bigger problems than women. We're more concerned about living our own lives to its fullest not what a certain woman expects.

Don't let you being right for once in your life go to your head. You're a smug little bastard as it is. Just remember even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Now, respond with something other than your usual "all knowing d1ck riding ass pirate" remarks.

You can say all you want, but the way you act on this forum tells me different. Most of you guys have the attitude of an ass pirate. "OMG! HE GETS P*SSY LET'S PRAISE HIM!" "OMG! HE'S A VIRGIN AND EVEN THOUGH HE HAS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE APPROACHING THAN I DO, I'M GONNA CRITICIZE HIM AS IF I HAD THE RIGHT!". Plus since when did you have the power to speak for everyone else? You don't. You yourself might not be an asspirate, but you can't speak for anyone else.

Wow, you called me a "bastard" go you. I'm swimming in the kiddie pool here.

Understand that I don't even take this argument really seriously. Despite whatever's said here, guess what, I still go to college, I still approach and I still have fun approaching. I don't even care that much about getting laid right now. If it happens great, if it don't, who cares. I don't go in there trying to get laid, I go in there to have fun and to work on my kino and stuff.

Kissing, getting laid and all that stuff, is all material. You get laid, life goes on. You get a kiss, life goes on. You get rejected, life goes on.

 

[Aragon034]

You can say all you want, but the way you act on this forum tells me different. Most of you guys have the attitude of an ass pirate. "OMG! HE GETS P*SSY LET'S PRAISE HIM!" "OMG! HE'S A VIRGIN AND EVEN THOUGH HE HAS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE APPROACHING THAN I DO, I'M GONNA CRITICIZE HIM AS IF I HAD THE RIGHT!". Plus since when did you have the power to speak for everyone else? You don't. You yourself might not be an asspirate, but you can't speak for anyone else.

Wow, you called me a "bastard" go you. I'm swimming in the kiddie pool here.

Understand that I don't even take this argument really seriously. Despite whatever's said here, guess what, I still go to college, I still approach and I still have fun approaching. I don't even care that much about getting laid right now. If it happens great, if it don't, who cares. I don't go in there trying to get laid, I go in there to have fun and to work on my kino and stuff.

Kissing, getting laid and all that stuff, is all material. You get laid, life goes on. You get a kiss, life goes on. You get rejected, life goes on.

This is the first post in awhile that actually makes a decent amount of sense.

the issue most people have is that a person wants to learn from someone who has experience in that field. so lets look at it logically.

You have great experience approaching, you can start a conversation about anything and keep it going. the issue is that people on these forums are more likely than not trying to get somewhere with women. By saying that you don't care whether you get anywhere with women or not (although you did say you're working on Kino which is good) you're shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to people taking your advice.

Your experience is more like a Salesman, being able to break the ice and keep the conversation going. but so far you haven't said you have any experience with taking the steps after approaching.

If you honestly want to help newbies with approaching in a specific sense, start a journal or a webblog dedicated to that. But calling everybody asspirates or any number of other repetitive insults because we're calling you out on your paraphrasing of dozens of other publications (I.E. Dj Bible, The Game, etc...) is just causing needless drama.

 

[oakraiderz2]

You can say all you want, but the way you act on this forum tells me different. Most of you guys have the attitude of an ass pirate. "OMG! HE GETS P*SSY LET'S PRAISE HIM!" "OMG! HE'S A VIRGIN AND EVEN THOUGH HE HAS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE APPROACHING THAN I DO, I'M GONNA CRITICIZE HIM AS IF I HAD THE RIGHT!". Plus since when did you have the power to speak for everyone else? You don't. You yourself might not be an asspirate, but you can't speak for anyone else.

Wow, you called me a "bastard" go you. I'm swimming in the kiddie pool here.

Understand that I don't even take this argument really seriously. Despite whatever's said here, guess what, I still go to college, I still approach and I still have fun approaching. I don't even care that much about getting laid right now. If it happens great, if it don't, who cares. I don't go in there trying to get laid, I go in there to have fun and to work on my kino and stuff.

Kissing, getting laid and all that stuff, is all material. You get laid, life goes on. You get a kiss, life goes on. You get rejected, life goes on.

Please, for the love of god, respond in a somewhat coherent manner without youre catch phrase "asspirates."

Dont get offended at what i say, because its not an attack on you by anymeans. The majority of the guys here are not constantly trying to get laid, nor trying to get a kiss. They just understand that its something they want and when they can they go after it. Like many have said before, including myself, i know you can approach with a lot more ease then the majority of guys on this site, myself included. I get that youre trying to have fun and all that jazz, but for you to sit here and say everyone has problems in other facets of life other than women is asinine. Everyone has problems, including me and you. Everyone here understands that so its futile to make such an inane remark. Now that you can approach whenever you want, why not work on something else? Like getting a date? Not just to bang the sh*t out of her, but to get to actually know a girl, like you claim is your purpose. Why dont you befriend these girls if you want to get to know them? And please DONT respond in the manner that is expected of you. Im merely asking you questions and trying to help. Perhaps the zeitgeist is inappropriate at this point in time.

 

[theunflushables]

You can say all you want, but the way you act on this forum tells me different. Most of you guys have the attitude of an ass pirate. "OMG! HE GETS P*SSY LET'S PRAISE HIM!" "OMG! HE'S A VIRGIN AND EVEN THOUGH HE HAS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE APPROACHING THAN I DO, I'M GONNA CRITICIZE HIM AS IF I HAD THE RIGHT!". Plus since when did you have the power to speak for everyone else? You don't. You yourself might not be an asspirate, but you can't speak for anyone else.

Wow, you called me a "bastard" go you. I'm swimming in the kiddie pool here.

Understand that I don't even take this argument really seriously. Despite whatever's said here, guess what, I still go to college, I still approach and I still have fun approaching. I don't even care that much about getting laid right now. If it happens great, if it don't, who cares. I don't go in there trying to get laid, I go in there to have fun and to work on my kino and stuff.

Kissing, getting laid and all that stuff, is all material. You get laid, life goes on. You get a kiss, life goes on. You get rejected, life goes on.

Mike, no one is criticizing you because you are a virgin. (Ok, there might be a few) You're criticized because every time someone offers you advice or words of encourgement you turn into a raging d1ck. Take the post Warped made saying you've improved since he had last been here, you reply with a d1ckish response.

Why is it whenever anyone offers you advice you can't take it? This is a place to learn. I'll be the first to admit I do not know everything that there is to learn here and will continue to learn and ask for advice when needed. And when I do post advice or my opinion, I welcome the criticism. You can't learn or grow without anybody challenging you. If you were to live your life surrounded by sychophants with their tounges licking your arsehole, you would find life would become dull and stagnant rather fast.

Stay where you're at and expect nothing more out of life or learn from others, its your choice.

 

[The Logical Player]

I am 100% sure that your appearance are what is holding you back

no way someone can make as many approaches as you, and still to never have even had a date or a makeout session

im SHOCKED no one has mentioned this earlier........but you most likely do not look the role of the seducer that you try to be in your head

describe how you look, or just post a pic, because alot of your problems can be solved with a quick appearance analysis

 

[ElStud]

Mike, no one is criticizing you because you are a virgin. (Ok, there might be a few) You're criticized because every time someone offers you advice or words of encourgement you turn into a raging d1ck. Take the post Warped made saying you've improved since he had last been here, you reply with a d1ckish response.

Why is it whenever anyone offers you advice you can't take it? This is a place to learn. I'll be the first to admit I do not know everything that there is to learn here and will continue to learn and ask for advice when needed. And when I do post advice or my opinion, I welcome the criticism. You can't learn or grow without anybody challenging you. If you were to live your life surrounded by sychophants with their tounges licking your arsehole, you would find life would become dull and stagnant rather fast.

Stay where you're at and expect nothing more out of life or learn from others, its your choice.

You know all man. Whatever you say, I still go out approach, have fun and improve myself. I mean you know all or atleast think that, so I'm not gonna argue.

 

[The Logical Player]

I still improve myself

what about yourself are you improving by constantly getting the same bad results??

refer to my post above for your solution

 

[Rhoto]

You know all man. Whatever you say, I still go out approach, have fun and improve myself. I mean you know all or atleast think that, so I'm not gonna argue.

You're full of so much fcking fail man its silly.

Why are you trying so desperately to defend yourself?

Grow up.

 

[Jaggs]

You know all man. Whatever you say, I still go out approach, have fun and improve myself. I mean you know all or atleast think that, so I'm not gonna argue.

Do you actually believe that this is an appropriate reply to someone trying to help you?

Why can't you take constructive criticism seriously?

There is a reason why most people reply in a negative manor towards you, and that reason is : you.

Your attitude and responses evoke these negative and harsh responses in other people. Until you can see this and admit it, you are in denial. You feel you are being attacked and must constantly defend yourself...But why?

You need to let go of your ego.

If you reply with something witty like, "you know all" or, "you're an asspirate" then you have further proven my point, so please, cut that shyt and start being realistic.

This is just unbiased advice I am giving from reading your posts and threads on this forum. I am not being hateful towards you, just giving you the truth. This has nothing to do with woman, just how you handle people in general.

You need to just stop and think: why are people attacking me? if I presented myself differently would they? are my responses appropriate and helpful to the situation or make it worse?

Of course these negative response don't help you at all, but looking on the other side I can see how people get frustrated when you act the way you do. Even though it may not seem like it, these people are just trying to help too (But perhaps going the wrong way about it)

Please do not take any offense from this. This is honest help.

Thanks.

 

[ElStud]

what about yourself are you improving by constantly getting the same bad results??

refer to my post above for your solution

You know all.

 

[Jaggs]

Hmm.

 

[ElStud]

Well you do. Just from some post on the forum, you know all. Aint saying you're wrong, aint saying you're right, but I just aint arguing. You got it all figured out in your mind and I don't really care if you got it right or not, cause I'm not here to impress or prove myself to some people on a forum. I'm gonna keep saying the same stuff, the advice is advice. Newbies can take it or leave it. If they take it will be better. It's funny you guys are still going on with this, just leave it be. It's advice and personally I don't give a sh*t what you think about it, cause it's from my own personal experiences.

And in the end, most of you guys care a lot more about this topic than me. To me, it's just my advice. But you guys want to turn the subject to me. For me it's advice, newbies can take it or turn it don't. Doesn't matter to me, they'll be a lot better off taking it but what the heck. I think you guys care WAAAAAY to much about me.

 

[The Logical Player]

this Elstud person has a mental disorder that we (since we are not doctors) can't understand

i can clearly see this

 

[oakraiderz2]

this Elstud person has a mental disorder that we (since we are not doctors) can't understand

i can clearly see this

Yea, tis called being a f*ckin retard. I would pay him 5000$ to follow him around for a week and record his ludacris behavior. I would then post in on here and charge 10$ for people to see what this assclown looks like and how he approaches. Hes a prime example of how not to BEHAVE as a person.