Either play them or get played by them

[SirFratserlot]

Just like in war, you either make the other guy die for his country or he makes you die for yours. Relationships are complete bull****. I guarantee you that loving couple is putting up a huge facade. You don't truly know what's going on when they're not together or not in front of people. I guarantee you one of them is getting played. There is no such thing as "the one", either lol. You live in a different time period than your grandparents. As a result, women are completely different now a days and it is not good for us men. You just have to treat them like you did with the toys you didn't give two fvcks about as a kid. I know it's terrible, but if you wanna avoid getting your heart broken than that's how it has to be. It doesn't matter who the girl is. As soon as you catch feelings you might as well jump out of your car before it goes off a cliff.

 

[zekko]

The reason you're saying this is because you're coming from a place of failure. I've read your posts, you haven't had much success with women. I'm not saying this to insult you, I'm saying this is why you have such a bitter attitude, which is understandable.

While I agree that this is not our grandfather's generation, I think it wrong to say relationships are necessarily worthless. Just get the "happily ever after forever and ever" part out of your head. Even that is still possible for some people, just not likely anymore.

The key to turning this around is increasing your value, increasing your social skills, and getting better at screening women. Weed out the bad apples, and don't be a slave to your emotions.

You don't post your age, but I'm assuming you're a young feller. Do what you can now to make yourself a success in the future. Then you will have value, and women will want you. I went through some pretty bad times with women as a young man myself. You can turn it around.

 

[SirFratserlot]

The reason you're saying this is because you're coming from a place of failure. I've read your posts, you haven't had much success with women. I'm not saying this to insult you, I'm saying this is why you have such a bitter attitude, which is understandable.

While I agree that this is not our grandfather's generation, I think it wrong to say relationships are necessarily worthless. Just get the "happily ever after forever and ever" part out of your head. Even that is still possible for some people, just not likely anymore.

The key to turning this around is increasing your value, increasing your social skills, and getting better at screening women. Weed out the bad apples, and don't be a slave to your emotions.

You don't post your age, but I'm assuming you're a young feller. Do what you can now to make yourself a success in the future. Then you will have value, and women will want you. I went through some pretty bad times with women as a young man myself. You can turn it around.

I guy can only increase his value so much. I'm good looking tall muscular guy in college and all I do is get teased/lead on. What's the point of giving a woman a chance when I know it's gonna go to shvt eventually. Might as well save myself the heartbreak.

 

[djgirl]

maybe lower your standards and give girls that arent 8s and up a chance...i bet you dont even consider them do you? chances are they most probably wont be as shallow and give you head games then the hot bimbos...food for thought

 

[SirFratserlot]

maybe lower your standards and give girls that arent 8s and up a chance...i bet you dont even consider them do you? chances are they most probably wont be as shallow and give you head games then the hot bimbos...food for thought

The girl that played me was a girl below my league that had a crush on me prior. The only girl ive had sex with was some trashy ***** that took advantage of me. I dont even bother with 8s because they think im air.

 

[betheman]

... I'm good looking tall muscular guy in college...

if this is true, you already have a foot in the door which others have to work for so stop *****ing! maybe its you attitude that makes people respond to you the way they do? also, you are still young, dont even bother looking for relationships yet, have fun fgs

 

[floydb25]

I guy can only increase his value so much. I'm good looking tall muscular guy in college and all I do is get teased/lead on. What's the point of giving a woman a chance when I know it's gonna go to shvt eventually. Might as well save myself the heartbreak.

In these situations - and I've been there - it's almost guaranteed that you're being weak, unassertive, submissive, of low self-esteem, etc. Just because you're good looking doesn't mean people won't take advantage of, or walk all over you. You can't think you have a free pass. People will treat you as you allow them to. Predators love to hone in on weak / nice folk, and take them for a ride. People also have to respect you before anything. Make sure you're not making yourself an easy target for jerks to exploit. Eliminate any entitlement issues or delusional / wishful views you may have about people being nice and fair.

They might also assume you're shallow, ****y, egotistical, etc based on your looks and physique, and treat you like **** as a result. This is very common, as well. They might not be taking you seriously - perhaps because of your attitude, behavior, personality, etc. Akin to how a hot, flashy, confident, conceited girl gets treated.

Also, take a look at the kind of women you're going after - and I'm not talking about looks. Remember that nice people DON'T act this way. Make sure they're not insecure, troubled, bitter, or of low self-esteem themselves. Losers love to tear other people down, and use them as a scapegoat for their insecurities. Make sure you're not attracted to losers or *******s - as a result of your own issues.

As well, are you approaching them, or vice versa? Most women who approach are aggressive, loud, mean, etc. They're all up in the "game". Make sure you assert yourself, don't take any ****, aren't a passive follower, etc. Keep on chugging along, as well. Don't stick around if things are going sour. Don't be a desperate co-dependant.

Finally, young college girls are all about the excitement, lust, and drama. They're not emotionally mature, so don't take them seriously, or think in terms of deep relationships. They WILL play games, act retarded, tease / AW, jump from guy to guy, and all that mess. Don't think it's just you.

But, always remember that the only common denominator IS you.

 

[zekko]

I guy can only increase his value so much. I'm good looking tall muscular guy in college and all I do is get teased/lead on. What's the point of giving a woman a chance when I know it's gonna go to shvt eventually. Might as well save myself the heartbreak.

Well, if you're good looking, tall, and muscular, then you have some built in advantages. You're also in college so hopefully that means you are working toward having a good financially secure career. So you're not there yet, but you're working on it. We all have to pay our dues, I know I did.

When I was younger, I never could have full confidence or fully respect myself until I was able to pull down a good wage and stand on my own two feet securely. Maybe it was something to do with the way I was raised, but when I was growing up a man was supposed to support himself. For awhile there, it seemed like everybody I knew earned more money than I did, but with hard work I was able to turn that around.

Another thing, at 52 years old I feel kind of resigned to the fact that you know what, if things go to sh!t, then they go to sh!t. Another girl will be around to take her place. It's like the flower metaphor, the flower is there growing for you to enjoy. But if you pick it, it dies. You have to enjoy the flower whille it is blooming, it's not going to be blooming forever.