Eggs

[Crazy Asian]

so i've heard that many people eat eggs in mass quantities here. And i was wondering why is it good? I know theres protein, but not that much.... like 6 grams. Also, is there bad stuff in the yolk? enlighten me.

 

[HandyAndy]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=130635

 

[Crazy Asian]

that doesn't really answer my question.
it's just a debate about if raw eggs give you salmonella.

i want to know if there's something in eggs that are good other than protein....and there's not even that much protein in them.

and if eating too many is bad.

 

[Throttle]

you cannot eat too many eggs. you'll gag on them long before. the things that people worry about are the saturated fat and cholesterol. both are good for you, gov't advice be damned. also, the amino profile is perfect for growth (makes sense, since if you weren't gulping it down, it would grow into a small bird).

there's protein, and then there's ideal protein. eggs are at the top of that list.

they can also be a cost effective way to bump up your omega-3 intake, depending on local availability/prices.

 

[HandyAndy]

1 in 30,000 = salmonella

 

[Omen]

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00260442

Here is what happened...

0 eggs= 2% increase in muscle mass & about 14% increase in strength
1 egg= 1% increase in muscle mass & about 9% increase in strength.

Now as you can see, not much on one egg.

Here is the result with 3 eggs

About a 4% increase in muscle mass & a whopping 33% increase in strength

Total daily cholesterol for all 3 groups was

200mg
400mg
800mg

This is where there are debates about cholesterol. Sure, it can be bad, and can be worse if we already have problems. The upside however, is it is critical for maintaining test levels.

Some research also shows that a low diet in it can impair muscle mass and strength.

Now some eat tons, and we aren't all saying you have to eat 12 a day. While they are good, yeah that might be over-kill and you can get protein from other sources too.

BUT as far as the cholesterol is concerned, if you are good to go, i'd say eating 3 eggs per day is prob a good thing. Again that study was 12 weeks, and I cant say what it would be if you ate 4 or 5 or even more.

The point being more than anything is that the cholesterol is necessary.

So the answer to your question regarding what else besides protein... there you have it. They are also packed with many other nutrients, and flax fed chickens that lay eggs produce eggs that are high in Omega-3s as well.

 

[Throttle]

1 in 30,000 = salmonella

this is misleading. first, there's no such equation -- you're simply quoting a guess, and not necessarily an accurate one.

second, it's a non-issue unless you eat them raw or undercook them, and handle them properly.

third, the salmonella isn't "in" the egg, it's on the outside of the shell. break them properly (against a flat surface, not a corner) and wash your hands properly afterwards and there's little risk of transmission. in fact, cooking them may give you the false impression that you're doing the right thing, but if you fail to wash your hands after breaking them, you might as well not have even bothered.

 

[Warboss Alex]

0 eggs= 2% increase in muscle mass & about 14% increase in strength
1 egg= 1% increase in muscle mass & about 9% increase in strength.

Now as you can see, not much on one egg.

Here is the result with 3 eggs

About a 4% increase in muscle mass & a whopping 33% increase in strength

where's the study for 18 eggs?

 

[mrRuckus]

in fact, cooking them may give you the false impression that you're doing the right thing, but if you fail to wash your hands after breaking them, you might as well not have even bothered.

Salmonella can kiss my ass as my mighty immune system utterly destroys it then takes a leak on it while flexing above it for good measure.


Really if you are going to fall ill or die from eggs then you have bigger health problems to worry about. I really think it's pretty sad that every time eggs are mentioned everyone freaks out. You'd be better served questioning whether you should drive to work today because you're more likely to be mangled driving to work than anything worth mentioning happening to you from egg bacteria.

 

[SinJester]

1 in 30,000 = salmonella

I've seen this statistic a few times before.

I tried eating raw eggs once, I was so close to puking and didn't manage to get any egg down...

 

[Bible_Belt]

I read about a top chef who said that organic eggs were much higher quality.

 

[Master Bates]

All I know is eating raw eggs is one of the only changes I made in my overall regimen before I started to finally bulk up some.

 

[Omen]

where's the study for 18 eggs?

Well, unfortunately they stopped. Would be interesting to see where it plateaus and there are no more benefits, besides the obvious nutrients of the egg.

The whole saying, if one is good, two must be better, and so forth? I wonder what 4 eggs would show, or 5, or even more. Obviously the more is better phrase applies to some things in life and not all, but my guess, is that maybe more than 3 or 4 wouldn't do much more. I'm guessing there is a point to where the cholesterol doesn't make a difference.

Kind of like cramming 40g of creatine in the body. Does nothing, and if your saturated at 154mm/mol then it wont climb, regardless of what you do.

What is the point of cholesterol where it has no more effect on strength and mass, I dont know. I'll see if I can dig up some info on that.

 

[Throttle]

Really if you are going to fall ill or die from eggs then you have bigger health problems to worry about. I really think it's pretty sad that every time eggs are mentioned everyone freaks out. You'd be better served questioning whether you should drive to work today because you're more likely to be mangled driving to work than anything worth mentioning happening to you from egg bacteria.

Well, having come down with salmonella or something like it twice in two months last spring, I can say that healthy adult males are unlikely to die, but it really, really sucks (and holds you back in the gym for over a week).

My point was that you can get it from poorly handled or improperly cooked foods more easily than eggs. And you can get it from mishandling eggs more readily than drinking them raw. I'm not against anyone taking eggs raw as an informed choice, but food poisoning is not fun, no matter the source. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

 

[Warboss Alex]

but my guess, is that maybe more than 3 or 4 wouldn't do much more.

then you have obviously never megaloaded eggs.

 

[spesmilitis]

this is misleading. first, there's no such equation -- you're simply quoting a guess, and not necessarily an accurate one.

second, it's a non-issue unless you eat them raw or undercook them, and handle them properly.

third, the salmonella isn't "in" the egg, it's on the outside of the shell. break them properly (against a flat surface, not a corner) and wash your hands properly afterwards and there's little risk of transmission. in fact, cooking them may give you the false impression that you're doing the right thing, but if you fail to wash your hands after breaking them, you might as well not have even bothered.

quoted for bookmark

 

[Throttle]

btw, according to this, i'm wrong about it only being on the outside (something i've seen quoted over and over again, so i get the impression that no one really knows for sure):

http://www.aeb.org/LearnMore/EggSafety.htm

also, their estimate is 1 in 20,000. yet another shot in the dark, of course.

here's an advocate of raw eggs who quotes 1 in 30,000, argues that you only need a biotin supplement if you refuse to eat the yolks, and gives lots of suggestions to avoid problem eggs (mostly common sense like don't drink cracked eggs, or those that smell spoiled):

http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.htm

 

[Crazy Asian]

well today i ate 6 organic eggs.
3 in breakfast
3 after my workout.

both times were cooked (scrambled).... and i hope that doesn't damage the nutritional value or something...

i'll probably just eat 2-3 every other day for breakfast and see what happens.

 

[Crazy Asian]

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00260442


0 eggs= 2% increase in muscle mass & about 14% increase in strength
1 egg= 1% increase in muscle mass & about 9% increase in strength.

wait, so are u saying that i'll gain more muscle and strength if i eat 0 eggs compared to eating 1? or is it added on the the 0 eggs?

 

[Warboss Alex]

wait, so are u saying that i'll gain more muscle and strength if i eat 0 eggs compared to eating 1? or is it added on the the 0 eggs?

start with 6/day