"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Effects of Recession on Dating?

MikeEdward1973

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Over the last few months, I've been having success with women that, historically, would have been slightly out of reach for me.

I think this recession is having something to do with it. Has anyone else experienced this phenomenon? That the current economic climate is having a favorable effect on their desirability, all else being equal?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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thedeparted

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I think it's the lunar cycle. The moon is at its fullest of the year now.
 

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MikeEdward1973 said:
Over the last few months, I've been having success with women that, historically, would have been slightly out of reach for me.

I think this recession is having something to do with it. Has anyone else experienced this phenomenon? That the current economic climate is having a favorable effect on their desirability, all else being equal?
No, can't say i have noticed a difference, but then im always successful with women :) .

Regards,
 

Knight's Cross

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Mike,
I made a post on this a couple weeks ago. In my city, I'd lean towards a yes. Their is definitely a shift towards provisioning being more at the forefront of womens agendas. More people in general are at risk for losing their job, income level, etc. You bet that's going to have an effect on the dating scene.
The thing I'd be careful with is if you are getting more attention you have to take a good look at whose paying you more attention. It could just mean that the girl in play isn't getting her usual fix of fawning attention from guys who are now in economic distress, so she shifts to men who make more coin that are not her usual play list. Get my drift? Sort of like the AW that loses her looks and shifts from bad boy to provider nice guy. If that's the case wave off. She'll switch right back to bad-boy type when he's back in coin.

My hope is you are just more up on your game, and are garnering better women by skill rather than economics.

KC
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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betterthandead

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^^^ presumptious weirdo.

Girls who in the fall/winter months who are single will probably want to hook up to someone warm.
 

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A thing that i have to say:

If we lived in a ideal society where everyone has all the food/shelter/ and everyone could have anything they wanted easily, the the "good dad" type of guys would be uselless, and women would just **** whomever they want.

If we lived in a society where only few men could provide security/food, etc, where life is harder, then, women would HAVE to be with them in order to survive(ocasionally sneaking out for the low status/good genes man), or at least live better.

Of course those two situations are extremes, and they cannot exist, but it's probably one of the reasons why poorer countries(like my own, or lets say, a muslim country) will have a lower divorced/single mom rate than rich countries, where women experience more liberties and less responsabilities. And it's also probably why in those countries have less social liberties to go out, meet people, etc, because since life is harder, they cannot give the liberty to women that will allow them to become sngle moms at ages around 15-20.
 

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SXS said:
A thing that i have to say:

If we lived in a ideal society where everyone has all the food/shelter/ and everyone could have anything they wanted easily, the the "good dad" type of guys would be uselless, and women would just **** whomever they want.

If we lived in a society where only few men could provide security/food, etc, where life is harder, then, women would HAVE to be with them in order to survive(ocasionally sneaking out for the low status/good genes man), or at least live better.

Of course those two situations are extremes, and they cannot exist, but it's probably one of the reasons why poorer countries(like my own, or lets say, a muslim country) will have a lower divorced/single mom rate than rich countries, where women experience more liberties and less responsabilities. And it's also probably why in those countries have less social liberties to go out, meet people, etc, because since life is harder, they cannot give the liberty to women that will allow them to become sngle moms at ages around 15-20.
Then there are those countries that are making the transition from one end of the spectrum to the other. India looks like it is finally making the transition from an ancient Patriarchy to a modern Slutocracy:

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=152982

If they only knew what harm they are doing to themselves in trying to immitate the West.
 

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I've noticed it. I think the "independant woman" has been unnerved by the fact she may not have a job in the future and is looking for the provider type to help pay for her $200 jeans[not that she'd think of cutting back]
 

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I am continually amazed at how many women lead the sex and the city lifestyle, with all the clothes, and the overprized StarBucks, and the overloaded credit cards... and then they have a job at a non-profit making a little over minimum wage.

It will be interesting to see what happens to them when the Great Depression Part II rolls in. When the easy money is gone, those who built a solid financial foundation will be like an oasis in the desert. We'll have our pick. And that is how it should be, imo.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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