"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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****ed up? I think so...

onyx

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ok so i met this chick about 12 months ago we made out a few times, when she was on and off between her boyfriend of like 3 years, but i only ever saw her like once every 5 months or something.

Havn't seen much of her since the end september because i went back to uni, but we've kept in contact a little bit, and i saw her new years eve for a while

Any way i started talking with her again about a week and half ago, shes broken up with her boyfriend about a month ago, she was telling me she was bored,

I see her out in a club on friday night, and I started making out with her on the dance floor.

Saturday night comes I go out and get wrecked I mean ****ing all over the place, i lost about 7 hours, that night I can't remember anything, but when I get home I give her a drunken phone call. Big mistake.

Taking to her today, she started saying

"you used to be really mysterious and not tell me anything, but since we started talking again you seem to tell me alot and go into detail"

Then she told me about the phone call i gave her on saturday, which I cant remember ahah. So yeh I think i've ****ed up.

My question is do you think i should even bother asking her out?

I mean she just split up with her boyfriend who she was with for 3 years on and off, and I'm, pretty sure I ****ed up, with the whole drunken call thing, but my friends and her friends have told me she 'fancies' me, My gut tells me i've ****ed up though.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You can still seduce her. Who cares if you gave up the mystery of a few things. You can re-create the image that there is still plenty of mystery. Also, if you can make her feel good, she'll want to be around you. So figure out how to get her feeling good about seeing you!
 

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ok thanks for reply ill bare it in mind.

Its not as if its just this 1 chick i've been chasing for over a year though, I've dated and screwed 3 or 4 chicks over the past year quite abit. It aint no oneitis either, we just have a good laugh together, so was thinking about asking her out. I've just been out of trying to get into this mindset, since i've been dating, going to try and do it over again.
 

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onyx said:
ok thanks for reply ill bare it in mind.

Its not as if its just this 1 chick i've been chasing for over a year though, I've dated and screwed 3 or 4 chicks over the past year quite abit. It aint no oneitis either, we just have a good laugh together, so was thinking about asking her out. I've just been out of trying to get into this mindset, since i've been dating, going to try and do it over again.
She doesn't sound dateable. I hope you're just looking for a ONS. Sounds like that's all she's good for.
 
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