"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dumped my 9/10 gf

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Finally left her after being with her a year and a half. I left her because she was selfish and she had a lot of things about her personality that turned me off. I know this was the right choice, but sometimes I find myself tempted to go back to her because I know I can have sex with her any time I want and she might be the best that I ever do. I know how hard it is to get a legit 9/10 in a committed relationship (whole different level than having a ONS with a 9/10)

I get annoyed when some 7 rejects me knowing I just walked away from a beautiful woman. Im frustrated right now especially sexy because I can't see myself having sex with anything less than an 8. What can I do to get passed this and make sure I dont go back? Lowering my standards isn't an option.

Anyone have any similar stories?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Von

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Finally left her after being with her a year and a half. I left her because she was selfish and she had a lot of things about her personality that turned me off. I know this was the right choice, but sometimes I find myself tempted to go back to her because I know I can have sex with her any time I want and she might be the best that I ever do. I know how hard it is to get a legit 9/10 in a committed relationship (whole different level than having a ONS with a 9/10)

I get annoyed when some 7 rejects me knowing I just walked away from a beautiful woman. Im frustrated right now especially sexy because I can't see myself having sex with anything less than an 8. What can I do to get passed this and make sure I dont go back? Lowering my standards isn't an option.

Anyone have any similar stories?
Did the same.

Now I give everyone a shoot if they have a great body (being healthy is a approach criteria).

It's not because she's à 9 and up... that she's LTR material.

Dating is about feeling good.

If you dumped her, it's because you know you can do better.
 
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Think about this, you were with a 9/10 that did not fullfill you. Maybe the conclusion is that physical beauty is really important on a ONS but in a LTR is not primary? Maybe you meet a 7 that can be a 10 in something else besides looking pretty and that fullfills you better?
 

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Think about this, you were with a 9/10 that did not fullfill you. Maybe the conclusion is that physical beauty is really important on a ONS but in a LTR is not primary? Maybe you meet a 7 that can be a 10 in something else besides looking pretty and that fullfills you better?
Honestly, I was happy with her in a lot of ways but she caused me a lot of stress. I left because I know there are women as pretty, if not prettier who don't have the issues she has.
 

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Honestly, I was happy with her in a lot of ways but she caused me a lot of stress. I left because I know there are women as pretty, if not prettier who don't have the issues she has.
After you have one of these causing you problems you'd rather one that looks a notch or two down that treats you a lot better.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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A man will accept severe character flaws in a woman, if she's just a 9/10.
A woman will accept severe character flaws in a man, if he's just rich.

I accept no such weakness in character. She might not look as hot, but a solid personality turns me on more than tits and ass ever could.
 

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What if this woman had a great personality. Would you still make her your girlfriend?
Well there has to be a lower bar. However... There could be an exclusion made. Say all the 9/10's in your area would treat you worse than dog $hit... But a GF like this you could get your d1ck wet every night, sucked and phvcked... And she cooked and did some errands. I think I would hit this while I plan on making a move and IGNORE the 9/10's that are treating me like dog $hit till I could make a move to where I would work out better.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PM me a photo of you "9" and I'll pay $2.66 to have it officially rated.

This offer stands for anyone who truly grades a particular woman a 9. You'll be surprised by the official rating.
 

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Normally I'm partial to redheads.
 

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Congratulations. You stoop up for your mental and emotional health. Better women are on their way to you.
 
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Honestly, I was happy with her in a lot of ways but she caused me a lot of stress. I left because I know there are women as pretty, if not prettier who don't have the issues she has.
So wouldn't there be any women as hot and with less issues would you have been willing to stand her character issues just because she is 9/10 and that's more important than being stressed out?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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