"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Would you f*ck your female friend (44 yo) who come to your place at 1 am to "talk", dead drunk, wants to sleep over in your bed and finally wants to f*ck?

While sober she doesn't want any relationship or sex with you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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BetterCallSaul

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Nope.
 

The Duke

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nope, but I bet when sober there is something she likes about you!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ZTIME

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A girl showing up to your place at 1am, drunk or sober, likes you more then just a friend.

Drunk girls screw more easily. Not because they're drunk, because it offers them an excuse if things get complicated afterwords.

"Mikephat, I shouldn't have done that, but I was drunk. Let's still be friends".

They get the D and still maintain control. You'd be better off looking at her saying "I don't bang drunk chicks, ask me when you're sober and we'll see what happens".
 

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I passed the opportunity telling her to sleep and we'll see tomorrow how are things are going

Next day she called me 3 times to tell me I'm a great guy. She was embarassed and excused her behaviour telling me she will back to her ex boyfriend.

I think I will never get a call from her, and I won't call her anyway
 

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what a dumb slut

typical dumb slut behavior


LOL @ her ex bf..phaggot lets his woman go ride c0ck then take the hoe back. FK that.
 

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A girl showing up to your place at 1am, drunk or sober, likes you more then just a friend.

Drunk girls screw more easily. Not because they're drunk, because it offers them an excuse if things get complicated afterwords.

"Mikephat, I shouldn't have done that, but I was drunk. Let's still be friends".

They get the D and still maintain control. You'd be better off looking at her saying "I don't bang drunk chicks, ask me when you're sober and we'll see what happens".
Truth. But honestly, we do that too. It's a convenient way to slink off and shut down any thought of a relationship.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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PantyWhisperer

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I'm going to go rogue here against the rest of the posters and say I would definitely have banged her. If I was already friends with her, that would lessen my fear of some date rape charge coming after the fact. If she was attractive and had me in the friend zone, I definitely would have done her. Then, when she tried to put me back in the friend box, I'd say- "I can't go back to being friends after that, it would just be too weird. Adios and best wishes to you."
That's the best possible outcome from being in the frie
 

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No way in hell. I've had an ex-gf want to tell me that some of the times we had sex were almost rape. I asked her "you mean the morning you woke my up by rubbing my ****?" THEN she was like "oh yeah" and she changed the subject. IF she had drunk as an excuse?????
 

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Would you f*ck your female friend (44 yo) who come to your place at 1 am to "talk", dead drunk, wants to sleep over in your bed and finally wants to f*ck?

While sober she doesn't want any relationship or sex with you.
The part in bold is why you shouldn't risk it. Had she been just had a little bit but not sloppy drunk, risk/reward is not justifiable.

But me I would have set my alarm for a couple hours later then woke her up and tagged that ass! ;)
 

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Think about it this way... The pvssy is temporary. The orgasm temporary. You will meet many women in your life, have many opportunities to get some with less risk.

HOWEVER, what is not temporary is a rape accusation... No pvssy is worth that... None.
 

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I'm going to go rogue here against the rest of the posters and say I would definitely have banged her. If I was already friends with her, that would lessen my fear of some date rape charge coming after the fact. If she was attractive and had me in the friend zone, I definitely would have done her. Then, when she tried to put me back in the friend box, I'd say- "I can't go back to being friends after that, it would just be too weird. Adios and best wishes to you."
That's the best possible outcome from being in the frie
In the 3rd world this might work. I wouldn't chance it in the UK or US. Too many date rape horror stories.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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