"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Driveon's Bootcamp Journal

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yeah I go to community college and I'm transfering to a 4 year next fall

What I liked about today: I'm the ****ing man. I got the last 5 conversations in today. I talked to a hottie (which i added to A1 below) in one of my classes about motorcycles cause she was carrying a helmet. Later I talked to 3 philosophy students about an out of body experience i had recently. Then around 8, it was cold as **** and i was feeling like **** cause i just saw my ex FB and she just made me feel down but I went out to the mall in search of the last conversation I needed. I found an old guy sitting in a recliner and we ended up talking for about an hour about all kinds of stuff. People my age get kinda weird when i talk about life but older people (or at least this guy) seemed to know it all and he had tons of good advice.

The things i learned about approaching are:
1. You have to accept the fact that you might feel awkward or it might not go as you planned
2. Love the person your talking to... dont love them in a teenage girl way... love them as a fellow human being and that way you won't judge them and you won't feel judged.
3. the 3 second rule is absolutely necessary, if you have 1 and 2 covered it doesn't matter if you walk up, find you have nothing to say, and bail.

What I want to improve upon about today:
I was really thinking about going up to some girls and saying "are you the sort of person i should get to know better" in a nonshallant sort of way but I didn't do it.



Exercise: complete

A1: 1..............TOTAL: 4
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 

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fck I just wrote this out and closed the browser by mistake.

What I liked about today:

Summary time

Article 1
Make eye contact. Big confident, slightly ****y Smile. Wave. If she smiles and waves back, then approach.

Article 2
1) It's you and all you

The easy way to gather confidence is to put effort onto yourself. spend time building up what makes you a unique person. What makes you stand-out from the rest of the world? Focus on your strong points and support it at all times.

2) It's all about the groom

give your body the attention it deserves. Your body be your shrine.

3) No fear of rejection

This is the biggest problem for most guys - caused by lack of #1 above. Just don't take this personally. rejection is a part of life. Accept it, don't take it personally.

This is important so I'm including it.
1. You have to accept the fact that you might feel awkward or it might not go as you planned
2. Love the person your talking to... dont love them in a teenage girl way... love them as a fellow human being and that way you won't judge them and you won't feel judged.
3. the 3 second rule is absolutely necessary, if you have 1 and 2 covered it doesn't matter if you walk up, find you have nothing to say, and bail.

What I want to improve upon about today:
I didn't act very social today and it's because i simply didn't put the effort into it.


Exercise: 0/10 complete

A1: 0..............TOTAL: 4
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 
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What I liked about today:
I went on a field trip with my class today. I realised that almost every girl in the class wants me and that whenever they act rude to me its only cause they are jealous after seeing me with another girl. Thanks to all the PUA guides for making me alpha enough to warrant all this attention.

What I want to improve upon about today:
I also realised i have a mental block or a sticking point. How do I **** a girl that seems to want a relationship with me without hurting her feelings. I thought that I should make it clear that i'm not looking for a relationship and then escalate and judge the response i get. if shes into it, then **** her, if not then leave her.

I'm gonna be ushering tonight at a concert. I'm not really planning on hitting on girls but if it happens, it happens.

Exercise: 0/10 complete

A1: 0..............TOTAL: 4
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 
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What I liked about today: I've been keeping busy with other stuff.


What I want to improve upon about today: I want to reach the point where I have at least 1 conversation with a stranger a day. That would be a beautiful thing. I'm going to go out tomorrow and try to make some approaches - i did nothing PUA related today.


Exercise: 0/10 complete

A1: 0..............TOTAL: 4
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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What I liked about today: i've been feeling really challenged by this weeks exercise. I approached my first girl today for this week. She was singing to herself and acting all confident and happy... i kept a door open for her and she said thank you in french. so i smiled and asked her if she was french. she then started ranting off about how just because someone speaks french doesn't mean they're french... i changed the subject but she continued to just argue with everything i said. It sucked but it was a beautiful thing to do it and get it over with. She wasn't that hot but she was acting like she was the ****ing queen of ****ing france. I'm kinda angry that she was condenscending but im not gonna blame her. if anything it just tells me that she needed to be negged and she needed me to take control of the frame. i'm not good at this yet but who cares im just trying to get used to approaching.


What I want to improve upon about today:
i have tomorrow to get 9 more conversations with girls. I had some opportunities to get some more in today and i let them slide for fear of outcomes

Exercise: 1/10 complete

A1: 1..............TOTAL: 5
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 

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She wasn't that hot but she was acting like she was the ****ing queen of ****ing france
Yea, don't u hate that...with the girl isn't even that hot and she thinks she is the HOTTEST. I wonder too.

Ur doin fine bro, keep it up. If u can't complete this week...just do it over but implement a little week 4 with it.....thats what i did. But what are the outcomes ur afraid of in particular? I get them all the time too ;-)
 

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NOTES

It's 8:00

I have 4 total so far, i want 6 more tonight. Im going out to get em now.

What I liked about today: Okay, I approached a girl i talked to earlier from my philo class. She seemed kinda off talking to me and i think its cause i avoided talking to her monday. I got her email nonetheless. Then i went to the cafeteria and talked to this HB9 whose in my anthropology class. We immediately went into comfort and did everything but C3. i got her number and took off.

I didn't count either of those towards my 10 conversations cause i talked to each of them once before. Plus they were in my class.

Then I walked around in mill valley and made one approach to a couple painting christmas crap on a window and the guy offered to sing a carol (cause he was one of those overly goofy artistic types) i listened and clapped afterwards and took off. i went to work then i hit the library and made 2 approaches but they weren't that impressive.

I've had to do a ton of NLP to get through this and its been well worth it. I've never felt so social in my life. I'm saying hi to people, starting simple conversations and just listening and opening up.. its wonder****ingful.

What I want to improve upon about today: I only did half the exercise this week and i would have liked to have finished it but im just going to move on as jose suggested and finish it this next week.

I notice that im doing okay in conversations with girls and im good with rapport but i could use some more ****y funny and teasing. Some girls seem guarded and i guess i worry that im going to fck up the conversation if i tease them but that's not true. ill study up on the attraction stage again and do some more NLP.

I didn't finish this weeks assignment but already i feel like I'm a million years ahead of where i was before. i also feel like im a million years ahead of most guys just cause i know so much PUA and I'm applying it (though I lack practice in the actual techniques).

Exercise: 5/10 complete


A1: 4..............TOTAL: 9
A2: 2..............TOTAL: 2
A3: 2..............TOTAL: 2
C1: 2..............TOTAL: 2
C2: 1..............TOTAL: 1
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 
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What I liked about today: ushered for a concert again.. lots of hi's. made eye contact with a sexy older woman and we flirted a little bit. then i opened a girl who was in the concert and she was into me until we started talking and i ran out of stuff to say. Guess i should memorize more canned stuff. said hi to sexy girl while walking to my car and complimented her boots.
What I want to improve upon about today: id liked to have kept that conversation with the sexy girl going. meh

ARTICLE SUMMARIES FOR WEEK 4

# 1
Picking up chicks is a numbers game. Risk Pain and Injury are common. Rejection is going to happen. The great PUAs play to win despite these challenges. Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyways. Live in a world of abundance. There's millions of girls out there... There will always be another chance.

# 2
There's a lot of men out there that do extremely risky stuff and yet are afraid to ask a woman for her number. There's no reason why asking a girl out should be as scary as making a million dollar investment or doing anything else that's necessary of the men in our society.

# 3
If a fat guy who lives with his mom can approach... so can I dammit.

# 4
Rejection is a part of life, its not personal. take things slow, ask a girl to coffee. Bounce back from rejection and keep trying til you succeed.

# 5
“I need to get going, let me give you a call…what’s your number?” This is how you get the number and split.

# 6
Assume the sale. Objections are the human way of saying “I’m interested, but not yet sold.” He who hesitates is lost.

Exercise: go for phone numbers and get rejected 10 times.

Last Week's Exercise: 7/10 Complete
This Week's Exercise: 0/10 Complete

A1: 2..............TOTAL: 11
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 2
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 2
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 2
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 1
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 

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Take up weight lifting. Not just for the looks but for the raised testosterone. Makes you alfa without even trying. Did wonders for me. Confidence inproved ten fold. DO IT!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Wolf, I work out and its great. Haven't had much time the last week with work and finals coming up but you're right.

What I liked about today: Didn't socialize much today, I have another concert tonight so we'll see what happens.
What I want to improve upon about today: I haven't masturbated in like a week and I'm goddamned horny.

Finals are next week and I got a lot of studying to do.

I haven't gone for any numbers yet but I might have a chance tonight.

Between not masturbating, having finals next week, and pushing myself to approach girls, I feel some stress.

The one good thing is that I can enter a sexual state of mind so quickly and thoroughly that anytime I feel fear, anger, jealousy, or whatever... I can just think about sex and feel good again.

The downside is I feel desperate sometimes.


This Week's Exercise: 0/10 Complete

A1: 0..............TOTAL: 11
A2: 0..............TOTAL: 2
A3: 0..............TOTAL: 2
C1: 0..............TOTAL: 2
C2: 0..............TOTAL: 1
C3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S1: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S2: 0..............TOTAL: 0
S3: 0..............TOTAL: 0
 
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Still sick.

approached a 4 set in the cafeteria. I asked who was the smartest and the 3 girls pointed to the asian guy. haha. I pointed to a word in my book and said "whats this mean" ... the girl next to him started answering and she was wrong so me and the target started laughing. I ejected after getting an answer. they started saying something about how i approached them cause they were asian (all but the target) and i turned around and said "aw dont give me that crap, you were the closest table... with a smile and they laughed.

Later my friends bailed so I went and sat with the target and one of her friends. The target was kinda dorky with glasses and that smart/artistic type of look and it turned out she had a great sense of humor so she carried the conversation and it was pretty awesome. Her friend started drawing a picture of me and the target with the idea that i was a millionaire and she was my trailer trash girlfriend.

I wrote down my email on the paper she was drawing on and told them to email it to me. the target slapped me for putting my email on the drawing and i said "uh oh, shes a hitter, ill have to keep my eye on her."

I haven't taken the time to memorized canned material and i really want to. anyways I left and that was that. pretty awesome.
 

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Dude... your posts are awesome. I'm doing a thread also. I'm on Week 1 Day 2. Keep up the good work. I wouldn't sweat the memorized lines though. Seemed to me like you did well with your counters to the asian girls
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm still fighting off this flu. Schools done so I'll have plenty of time to complete week 4 as soon as I feel better.
 

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I'm getting better... i just have the "sick voice" still and some caughing. I'll probably be better in a few days.

i approached an asian chick in a bookstore. I asked her where the english books were, it was a japanese bookstore. she kinda awkwardly looked around and tried to tell me but she didn't know. I started talking about the japanese books and we talked about them for about a minute and then i changed the conversation to her and she got shy again and bailed.

It was good practice. I want to memorize some canned things to say. like interesting questions. I'll do that tomorrow.
 

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i finished a book on neurolinguistic programming and I'm gonna do an exercise for approaching. It's going to take awhile and im took tired so ill post it tomorrow.
 

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Bad news, I didn't do anything PUA related today.

Good news, I'm better... so I'll start week 4 tomorrow.
 

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Hey dude, even if u repeat Week 4...try to implement some Week 5 in there(Calling up the girls u get numbers from)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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