"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drinking alcohol to overcome shyness

garruk

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hey all,

ive been going clubbing pretty often this last few months (turned 21 in april) and in recent weeks ive been getting close to trashed to overcome my shyness around women.


whenever i get piss drunk, my success rate gets to somewhere like 75% or something and i almost always kiss close.

however, when im sober, like during the day, or at a party i dont feel like drinking at, im sort of quiet and while i do talk to girls, it doesnt really ever lead anywhere.


my question, aimed mostly at you older djs out there: do you find that drinking alcohol is bad for your game? in the sense that you begin to rely on it? or is my reliance on alcohol to game going to fade on its own
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Weezy

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garruk said:
hey all,

ive been going clubbing pretty often this last few months (turned 21 in april) and in recent weeks ive been getting close to trashed to overcome my shyness around women.


whenever i get piss drunk, my success rate gets to somewhere like 75% or something and i almost always kiss close.

however, when im sober, like during the day, or at a party i dont feel like drinking at, im sort of quiet and while i do talk to girls, it doesnt really ever lead anywhere.


my question, aimed mostly at you older djs out there: do you find that drinking alcohol is bad for your game? in the sense that you begin to rely on it? or is my reliance on alcohol to game going to fade on its own
I'm the exact same way. When I get super drunk, sometimes I just black out and wake up in chicks beds. When I'm sober, I normally don't do as well.

As far as bad for your game.. I don't think it is for the first meeting, your partying, they are partying, you spark attraction, bam..

Now... once you start to date them, if you are really into them, then yes, alcohol can really f you up and let your emotions overwhelm you. Love is a pretty damn powerful drug in and of itself and when you mix that with alcohol you are more likely to display neediness, jealousy and all the other emotions that send em running for the hills...
 

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garruk said:
hey all,

ive been going clubbing pretty often this last few months (turned 21 in april) and in recent weeks ive been getting close to trashed to overcome my shyness around women.


whenever i get piss drunk, my success rate gets to somewhere like 75% or something and i almost always kiss close.

however, when im sober, like during the day, or at a party i dont feel like drinking at, im sort of quiet and while i do talk to girls, it doesnt really ever lead anywhere.


my question, aimed mostly at you older djs out there: do you find that drinking alcohol is bad for your game? in the sense that you begin to rely on it? or is my reliance on alcohol to game going to fade on its own
When I was younger, I needed to get drunk to break out of my shell. After a few years, that toned down and I could kick some kind of game in any situation.

But learn to break out of that earlier if you can. I don't want you missing out on pulling some chicks while you're in class, or shopping, etc.
 

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Yes, alcohol helps out tremendously in terms of shyness.

But, there is no easy solution in transitioning that into sober world. The only thing you can really do is start forcing yourself to game chics when you're sober. I think thats the only way its going to work but yes, alcohol is great stuff for getting you laid.
 

SamMalone

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Watch out for this. I did this to meet girls. Then I just started getting drunk out of habit. Then at home, by myself....
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Alcohol certainly has its place but it also might be a good idea to try to get to grips with the causes of your shyness.

I learned the hard way BTW, by nearly killing myself with drink at a rather early age.

After that, I had no option but to learn to go about things sober and although I can drink occasionally now, I still have to be careful.

Espi also makes a very good point too. :)

You are also much better attuned to an individual's body language and signals if you are reasonably sober IME, which is in itself a good thing.
 

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a lot of men have this problem. the best thing to do is learn to do it without the alchol. because if you can only do with it, it is a crutch and thats not good.
 

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Go out for a week straight and after every night decrease the amount you drink by a few drinks. Eventually you should be able to go out sober without problems.
 
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