"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DR: two coffee dates in one day

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hey guys,

i'm at uni, so when i'm gaming uni chicks, i like to meet up for coffee somewhere on campus then go for a walk.

anyway, first up is HBGreatAss. Met her at a club a couple of weeks back. So so face, HOT ass and nice cleavage. I'd give her a 7 overall.

laid down some good kino early, which was kinda easy cause we had already grinded and sh*t at the club so she was really receptive. Did the whole C+F thing about how when I called her and told her that we're having coffee next week, she was like "hmmm.....okay..", and how they are usually much more enthusiastic. :cool:

anyway, we go for a walk and end up at this tree on campus that has a branch that looks like a hammock, and you can just lie down on it. She just sat on the ground. I told her to come over to me, but she was like "sit on the ground, it won't hurt you!" I'm like "well, i don't wanna get dirty. Your not the only girl i'm seeing today" She laughs and sh*t, i just smile cause it was true. The time never really came up for a kiss close, so I didn't try it, but I did touch her a fair bit and she seemed to like it.

So, i only had an hour, told her "as interesting as you are, class is more important." haha! she laughed and punched my arm. I did the whole "Kiss goodbye" thing and pointed to my cheek. She lapped it up, then complained that she didn't have any lipgloss. haha, they are so obvious sometimes! So i bust on her about how she wants to take advantage of me so early.


Date no 2: I'm at the same coffee shop outside in the sun, chilling, reading some notes for class, waiting for HBTall. This girl has a great ass also, i'd give her a 7 also. Anyway, i'm just chilling and my ex walks by. She spots me, comes over to say hi, and i'm thinking "wow...this is gonna be interesting..." :crackup:

anyway, a couple of seconds after my ex shows up, HBTall turns up. LMAO! I introduce them to each other, and ask my ex if she would like to join us (of course, i knew she wouldn't). Shes like "no, i have some stuff to do.." and gives this look, and walks away. It went okay with HBTall. She seemed flustered a little, and kept talking too fast and often. I busted on her about being nervous around a guy like me. Nothing too interesting for this date, hugged goodbye.



Any tips, suggestions, etc.?

Is taking them to the hammock tree a good idea? Its shady, and grassy, and we could just lie down and sh*t so its not a bad place. what do you think?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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wtf? 30 views and no replies? You guys complain that nobody does any actual sarging and dating, and then when I post a date report, not another generic dumbass advice thread thats been discussed a million times already, nobody says sh*t.

come on! surely someone has comments, criticisms, or suggestions!

where are Animal Crackers, GGTW, Aquitas, diablo, etc.?
 

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You seemed to do well on both of these days. For your next date, you need to make sure you can isolate them both so you can at least k-close.
 

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lebRambo: Most people on here like to diss AFCs that screw up, meaning they only reply to painfully obvious mistakes and when they can ridicule someone and try to make themselves feel better.

Your thread doesn't really provide much opportunity for any of that hence your lack of replies.

You did a great job ...what can we say?
 

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Originally posted by GropeDope
lebRambo: Most people on here like to diss AFCs that screw up, meaning they only reply to painfully obvious mistakes and when they can ridicule someone and try to make themselves feel better.

Your thread doesn't really provide much opportunity for any of that hence your lack of replies.

You did a great job ...what can we say?
hmmm.....i didn't think of that.

And cheers. :)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Nothing wrong with the "tree date", beats the "dinner and movies" any day.

Nice FRs.
 

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Originally posted by Magico
Nothing wrong with the "tree date", beats the "dinner and movies" any day.

Nice FRs.
haha! the tree date kicks ass. I gotta stop taking girls there before word gets around :crackup:

although, you are totally right! F*ck all this commercial movie and dinner sh*t!

Grand total spent on TWO dates: $4 (two coffees, both mine)
 

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Originally posted by lebRambo

Grand total spent on TWO dates: $4 (two coffees, both mine)
That's the way to operate! Unless you already know the girl well, I don't see what could possibly be better than a coffee date seeing as how it is the perfect opportunity to get to know the person.
 

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Originally posted by Inc. ©
That's the way to operate! Unless you already know the girl well, I don't see what could possibly be better than a coffee date seeing as how it is the perfect opportunity to get to know the person.
yes! someone else agrees with the 'el cheapo date' school of thought! :D
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Nice Dude, both dates sounded like they went well
 

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Originally posted by Dr Box
Nice Dude, both dates sounded like they went well
thanks man.


UPDATE: seeing HBGreatAss again sometime this week. Hopefully my d!ck will be in her in the near future. :D
 

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Leb. I think the bigger issue with the lack of replies early on is that you want advice. BUT you had a date, your now in the top 10% of this site.

Infact, you had 2 dates in the one day. Which arguably puts you in the top 1% of this site; -i disagree, but you could argue it, i've never had 2 dates in the same day.

On the other hand, I recently realised I have more game then most people here aswell.

And from my dating experience, you did do a mistake.

You were telling them about how good you are with girls.

Did the whole C+F thing about how when I called her and told her that we're having coffee next week, she was like "hmmm.....okay..", and how they are usually much more enthusiastic.

"well, i don't wanna get dirty. Your not the only girl i'm seeing today" She laughs and sh*t, i just smile cause it was true. The time never really came up for a kiss close, so I didn't try it, but I did touch her a fair bit and she seemed to like it.

I busted on her about being nervous around a guy like me. Nothing too interesting for this date, hugged goodbye.


Now, take this constructively. 2 dates, 0 kiss closes.

Thats a failure.

A guy who is as good with girls as you told these girls you were, would have kissed them, and that would be his way of telling them he's good with girls.
I hope that makes sense.

Its great that you got the dates, but I'd be wary of working so slowly.

I'll tell you the whole story, from go to woe of my experience with one girl in particular.
 

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Originally posted by quest
I'll tell you the whole story, from go to woe of my experience with one girl in particular.
This is months ago.

Friday night. Local club. I'm out with some boys.

Cruising the dancefloor with a mate of mine who had a girlfriend.

my mate : "Hey HB7 you should hook up with my mate" *pointing at me*
HB7 : "yeah, he's cute"

I made out with her, got her number.

I was very very drunk, and made out with 3 other girls that night. I also had many girls on the go at the time. So this girl was WAY WAY down the list.

2 weeks passed, and we'd been breifly SMSing. We'd both admitted we couldn't remember what the other looked like and all that. But we decided to meet at the same club.

This time I wasn't AS drunk. And I'd made out with 1 other girl before we met up. When we met up, I had a f*cken blast with her. I'd never had more fun dancing with a girl before, she was really into me aswell. I was on top of my game.

I was so confident with her by this stage.

As I'd had a lot of fun with her, and was super confident with how much she liked me, I set up a date, the date was - listening to music in her bedroom.

could my game have been any tighter to this point?

I get over to her place, conversation was a bit slower and awkward, I was telling her how I'd picked up 3 other girls the night we met, she saw that I'd made out with another girl the 2nd night we met up. but I started making out with her.. She was moaning from that as I was rubbing her legs near her *****.

-I should add in that I'd been reading tips here about "walk away when you've got them hot and they'll be wild for it next time"

So it was getting late, and I got up to leave. she says "well I'll have to finish myself off" so i stuck around and fingered her. No doubt I could have had sex with her that night. - I didn't.

I'd already banked her as a f*ck buddy. We hadn't even had sex.

A week later, I saw her, she didn't want to kiss me anymore, she was going out with her ex boyfriend again...

now, I don't have one-itus or anything like that. But I can't help but thinking about this girl sometimes, she was awesome fun, and we shared alot of the same interests. But I never even got to f*ck her because a) I was too confident b) I moved to slowly.

I want you to think about those things.
 

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I've gotta agree with quest. Also, I'll add that coffee dates are a waste of time for college, especially since you aren't going in for the kiss close. It's one thing if you've been dating for a month and go on a coffee date, but for the first time it really reeks of boring unless you've got some great game going, which it doesn't look like you do yet.

I went out on 4 earlier this year, all within the same 10 day period. 1 of them I automatically nexted because she was nuts, but the other 3 definitely did not want a second date. I didn't kiss close a single one of them.

Compare that to this last Tuesday where I took an HB out to a concert which allowed for a ton of kino and being in her personal space (talking in her ear because of the music), and kind of toying with her a little all night. By the end of the night when I dropped her off, all it took was me saying wait a minute before she got out of my car, and we were making out with her biting my lip. She was horny to say the least. She's coming over to my place Friday for a 2nd date.

A friend of a friend is coming over Wednesday after I led her through a series of questions. She knows she's going to be having sex if she follows through with it. I know she's going to be in my bed if I pick her up Wednesday night.

The moral is, keep it sexual and interesting. Going out for coffee without a kiss close is neither. You're still way ahead of 95% of the people on here, though. Keep at it. :woo:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by Schlep
I've gotta agree with quest. Also, I'll add that coffee dates are a waste of time for college, especially since you aren't going in for the kiss close. It's one thing if you've been dating for a month and go on a coffee date, but for the first time it really reeks of boring unless you've got some great game going, which it doesn't look like you do yet.

I went out on 4 earlier this year, all within the same 10 day period. 1 of them I automatically nexted because she was nuts, but the other 3 definitely did not want a second date. I didn't kiss close a single one of them.

Compare that to this last Tuesday where I took an HB out to a concert which allowed for a ton of kino and being in her personal space (talking in her ear because of the music), and kind of toying with her a little all night. By the end of the night when I dropped her off, all it took was me saying wait a minute before she got out of my car, and we were making out with her biting my lip. She was horny to say the least. She's coming over to my place Friday for a 2nd date.

A friend of a friend is coming over Wednesday after I led her through a series of questions. She knows she's going to be having sex if she follows through with it. I know she's going to be in my bed if I pick her up Wednesday night.

The moral is, keep it sexual and interesting. Going out for coffee without a kiss close is neither. You're still way ahead of 95% of the people on here, though. Keep at it. :woo:
I think you said, what I said, ALOT better then me :)

I really wish I could say what I mean in better words. -or i wish i wasn't an english speaking person so i had a better excuse.

In anycase, something else I wanted to add. Your breath stinks after coffee. I just finished a coffee and I can feel my breath is dirty as hell. Who wants to kiss after coffee?
 

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point taken quest. really should have kiss closed on at least one. I guess the problem is (a problem that I didn't want to admit cause I thought i'd get laughed at) is that it is much harder for me to kiss close in broad daylight, outside, in a public place than in a club or party at night.

although, seeing HBGreatAss again this week, so i'll definitely kiss close then.
 

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Originally posted by lebRambo
point taken quest. really should have kiss closed on at least one. I guess the problem is (a problem that I didn't want to admit cause I thought i'd get laughed at) is that it is much harder for me to kiss close in broad daylight, outside, in a public place than in a club or party at night.

although, seeing HBGreatAss again this week, so i'll definitely kiss close then.
hey. no shame.
you're well ahead of most guys here.

and you're doing well for the short time you've been here.

and i 100% beleive that you're story actually happened.. not like alot of fags here who just lie or give advice on situations they've never even been near.

ALSO i've never kiss closed a girl for the first time anywhere except for a party or night club (that i can remember). So I completely feel for ya.

Stick to what u know, take the girl to a club.
 

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Originally posted by lebRambo
yeah, thats probably a better idea. thanks man.
something I learnt in the field my man.

listen to the textbook geeks.

"Take her for a coffee date, its cheap and you find out if she's worth your time."

guess what geeks, i'm barely 22. I want a girl who's cheap and going to put out.

I don't mind paying for a movie and getting some action in the car. Or hiring a DVD and getting some action in my/her bed.

I'm not looking for love. I'm looking to unload a nut.

Do what works. Do what you have fun at, not what this joint tells ya to do.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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