"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dont take women friends seriously

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Unless she is a pretty strong logical women.

dont take advice from them, dont befriend them...its a waste of your time.

id say 1 in 15 women are worth be-friending...the older they get...fine..but young women..are fycking retards with there emotionally skewed views.


just take caution if a girl is ur close or best friend.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I assume you have some examples for this kind of advice. Where are they? Or did one of your women friends just turn you down?
 

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im just telling you women dont know enuf to be taken seriously.....and the ones you get to know that are on your level..you will want to be with.

I see alot of guys I know with close female friends and they arent good friends.
 

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I have an example.

I have this one girl who I thought was my friend, but she never contacts me unless she is single. And even then, it's only to try and hook up with me, which I don't want to do...god damn, she won't just be my friend.

She's a terrible friend if a friend at all.

Other than her I don't have any "female friends." In fact, I have difficulty having any "female friends" ...and even though this site preaches to not become "LJBF-ed," I actually kind of wish I had a few more female friends in my social circle.

I seriously don't get how you can have a friend that's a girl...maybe someone should post a tip on how-to because I have trouble with this.
 

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delete, I wrote somethnig that was totally irrelevent to this thread lol.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I have this one girl who I thought was my friend, but she never contacts me unless she is single.
I had a female friend like that. I got incredibly tired of contacting her all the time. The last straw was inviting her to an important event in my life. When she turned down the invitation, I finally quit contacting her.

I had a female friend that would hook me up with all her single friends. It was a great resource, but I kicked her out of my life. She was always asking to borrow money which she never paid back.

It's almost seeming like women are good resources, but not good friends.
 

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I don't know why everyone's complaining. I've never had any problems. They're like people - some good, some bad. Avoid the bad and you'll be fine.
 

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My best friend is a man. I can honestly say that I am a genuine friend to him. He's a genuine friend to me as well. The kind of friendship we have is pretty rare, though. I tend to agree that men and women typically can't be REAL friends very often. On the rare occassion where you build that kind of friendship AND both people are attracted to each other...it's pretty damn special. :D
 

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On the rare occassion where you build that kind of friendship AND both people are attracted to each other...it's pretty damn special.

and this is who is my current GF.
 

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I think women are terrible on giving advice concerning their own sex.

For instance, how many of a time have you heard a girl advice a guy to "be nice, give her flowers/teddy bear", hold her door for her, compliment her, blah blah blah." Now, how many times does the same girl end up with a complete C ockface? More times that one knows. They give advice based on what they think they want but not what they are attracted to.

Simply put girls will tell you what they want you to hear. But in some cases, that is what they really believe at the time, but once they are attracted to the a sshole all those "wants" go right out the window.

I honestly believe that this is why we have more AFCs in the world than DJs. Guys have GOT to stop listening to women!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I completely disagree. Most of my friends are female and they give me a lot less hassle than any of my male friends and their jealousy, competetiveness and sometimes backstabbing.

I can have deep and fascinating conversations with female friends too or we can watch movies, play fight, flirt (good practice) and that sort of thing.

I mean no offence to anyone, but I get the impression a lot of guys on this site don't spend much time around females, and this is probably why they get so intimidated, bitter or have such trouble understanding them. You can't learn about women from the internet or books, you have to spend time with them...a lot of them!

Having female friends is really a great thing, just as long as you're not holding out hopes for more than friendship.
 

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I completely disagree. Most of my friends are female and they give me a lot less hassle than any of my male friends and their jealousy, competetiveness and sometimes backstabbing.


and you dont live in the United States either.
 

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On another point, none of my female friends tell me to be AFC, romantic or a wuss. Most of them tell me to take no sh1t, how wussyness is a turn off, how indifference sends them crazy and they even divulge many tricks and tactics they use.
 

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believe me there is a diff.

our MEDIA runs this country.

and our media for women 18 to 24 is freaking MTV, opera, DR phil....

trust me...there are some strong smart women out there...but there is a EMO fest going on with the college aged girls in this country.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
and this is who is my current GF.
And that is why you are so happy that you gush about your relationship on here. If you handle the relationship with care it might still be going strong when you're 80 years old. ;)
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
believe me there is a diff.

our MEDIA runs this country.

and our media for women 18 to 24 is freaking MTV, opera, DR phil....

trust me...there are some strong smart women out there...but there is a EMO fest going on with the college aged girls in this country.
Oh lord, how true is this? Its SO hard to find a girl who is not brainwashed by this garbage. None of them think independently, they are all a copy of a copy of a copy. Even the smart ones act like retards cuz the media jams the party attitude down their throats and neglects the importance of education.

On the other hand, the strong-willed/empowered ones think they are guys and want all the control. Its a lose-lose. DO NOT BEFRIEND GIRLS!
 

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hey Broham
I reside in Cardinal Nation

I would like a re-match of the world series.
 

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And that is why you are so happy that you gush about your relationship on here. If you handle the relationship with care it might still be going strong when you're 80 years old.

atleast 1 person understands it :)
 
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