“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Dont take it personal...just next

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You may not want to read this but it matters little whether she has low IL or is playing hard to get. Either situation should be your warning sign NOT to invest in this woman. She is either NOT very much interested in you OR she is a mindgamer...or both.
1.) Jophil could not be more correct. Talking to females about why they act how they do leads you to a few conclusions. My sisters friends and my female friend schooled me in to the fact that women intentionally play hard to get (never calling a guy) and other things to feel good about themselves, raise their value, protect themselves, and to test the guy. Some women do this to because they have been humped and dumped in the past and want to see if this guy is going to stick around for more than sex. Some do it because they think that by making a guy chase them they are somehow raising their value. This is a very commonly promoted and very wrong notion among women. They are projecting the psyche of a women onto men. Not all women do this but many do. This type of women is a game player.

2.) Other women are a hot bed of emotions and really don’t know why they do what they do. I was talking to a female that is a mutual friend of mine. Talking to a chick about relationships opens your eyes to the fact that many women make decisions based on a whim. When women have power they abuse it. Actually when people (man or woman) have power they abuse it. This female friend expressed to me that she would play games with men even after having sex with them. She stated that she would cut them off permanently for no reason other than to feel powerful again. She was on the rebound after a nasty breakup. The most stunning thing she said was that often nothing was wrong with these guys. She just liked the power to manipulate guys. She even admitted that she would play around with guys for no substantial reason at all other than she could. She feels bad for what she did looking back on it. Women like this (esp the artsy types) just often have no real justification for what they do. They just feel and act.
Don’t take it personal with these types. There is no good reason why she dumps good men, they just do because of the power.

3.) The third group of women are the type of women who are genuinely not interested in the guy but don’t know why. Every girl has had a guy who was Mr.Perfect on paper, who even exhibit alpha traits but just didn’t do it for her. This afc vs. alpha stuff should not be taken to the extreme. You can still be a lame, possessive, abusive afc and beat out a guy who is an alpha. This because we often forget many woman just have to feel a random connection with a guy. This could be and many times is based on nothing more than some random way she feels about some random guy. Its not based on S***. Many of the guys chicks are in love with don’t have many “alpha” or “jerk” qualities. Half the time the guy is not even good looking. Its totally random for many chicks. Many times these chicks are left wondering why they don’t feel it for Mr.Perfect. Its not that Mr.Perfect was an AFC either its just that he was not the guy her brain chemistry said to become deeply infatuated with.

Do not confuse this with a girl thinking you’re a hot and having sex with you. A girl having sex with you is not random or capricious it is based on certain physical and behavioral cues. A girl deciding to keep you around for the long term and being head over heels “in love” with you is unpredictable and random. A women can have sex with you for a week and not be infatuated with you in the least. She will then be able to dump you at any time with no real emotional investment.


Either way, the reasons behind the action is irrelevant. The point is you next her for now. Like the other posters say, just move on to new women. As men, we fall into the trap of thinking there is something wrong with us. For most socially well adjusted men, the problem is not them. You can be a perfectly cool dude and this could happen…a lot. We should not take it personally, because its not. This is why you should only spend your time on highly interested chick who exhibit good behaivor. If shes sending mixed signals move on to the next one. Spin a lot of plates until you find the one that is for no reason infatuated with you.
 

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Pandora said:
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Do not confuse this with a girl thinking you’re a hot and having sex with you. A girl having sex with you is not random or capricious it is based on certain physical and behavioral cues. A girl deciding to keep you around for the long term and being head over heels “in love” with you is unpredictable and random. A women can have sex with you for a week and not be infatuated with you in the least. She will then be able to dump you at any time with no real emotional investment. .
I really like this part. Most guys here think that once you have sex with a girl, she will fall in love with him. Or she will stay around, especially if he gave it to her good. The opposite is true. The guy will probably be head over heels for the good puvsy. This is why I say, prolong having sex with a girl that you really like. Make her anticipate it, want it, and look forward to it. If you bang her right away, she will EASILY walk away from you. She has nothing invested.
 
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A girl deciding to keep you around for the long term and being head over heels “in love” with you is unpredictable and random. A women can have sex with you for a week and not be infatuated with you in the least. She will then be able to dump you at any time with no real emotional investment.
I have to disagree with you on this. And you're mentality is all wrong. A girl doesn't decide to keep you around... you decide. If she's deciding then you're not doing something right (and i don't mean in the sex department either, although thats a posibility) Also you can influence whether a girl loves you or not just by your behavior. Saying that its unpredictable and random lets you off the hook. The fact is that most guys turn beta and let the woman do the leading. If you lead she will follow.

Most woman who decide to have sex with a man makes an emotional decision unless ur dealing with sluts or nut jobs like the girl who leaves guys to get power.

I wish i could elaborate more but i have to go to work...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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game.r said:
I have to disagree with you on this. And you're mentality is all wrong. A girl doesn't decide to keep you around... you decide. If she's deciding then you're not doing something right (and i don't mean in the sex department either, although thats a posibility) Also you can influence whether a girl loves you or not just by your behavior. Saying that its unpredictable and random lets you off the hook. The fact is that most guys turn beta and let the woman do the leading. If you lead she will follow.

Most woman who decide to have sex with a man makes an emotional decision unless ur dealing with sluts or nut jobs like the girl who leaves guys to get power.

I wish i could elaborate more but i have to go to work...
You're right in that respect...you DO have to be careful about saying things like, "women are completely random", because it DOES make it too easy for you to just chump out and blame the girl.

There's a LOT of that floating around on this forum...a lot of misogyny, looking for examples in the news of batty chicks acting out and just doing random stuff that makes no sense.


This is one of the BIGGEST reasons that everyone advises "plate-spinning" until you happen to find a girl you can REALLY enjoy spending time with. If you're only dating/courting/messing around with ONE girl, you CAN'T tell whether her behavior is completely random or if there's "method" to it.

If you're dating 3 women and one starts acting random, when you have two other examples to compare her to, then you can tell that she's just acting goofy...it's not you starting to pick up those old "AFC" habits. If they ALL start reacting the same way, then you can say, "Hmm...maybe it's me?"

If you only have the one, then you have no control-situation. You can't tell if you're really screwing up/doing something wrong or if, like the OP said, this girl is just being random. (BTW, if a girl is being random like this, it probably means she'd be more trouble than she's worth and you should drop her if you're not f***ing her)

By the time you go solo with a girl, you should have already had enough time to vet her and make sure she's not prone to TOO much random behavior...they all do it, but some more than others.
 

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My sisters friends and my female friend schooled me in to the fact that women intentionally play hard to get (never calling a guy) and other things to feel good about themselves, raise their value, protect themselves, and to test the guy. Some women do this to because they have been humped and dumped in the past and want to see if this guy is going to stick around for more than sex. Some do it because they think that by making a guy chase them they are somehow raising their value. This is a very commonly promoted and very wrong notion among women
There are pickup gurus who tell guys to do practically the same thing. Why is it wrong for women to do but right for men? Are you saying that the male psyche will not respond to this approach? Maybe true DJs won't but obviously women have been having success with this approach for years.
 

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There are pickup gurus who tell guys to do practically the same thing. Why is it wrong for women to do but right for men? Are you saying that the male psyche will not respond to this approach? Maybe true DJs won't but obviously women have been having success with this approach for years.
Actually women are their own worst enemies by using this approach. No self respecting man is going to put up with this behavior. Often women lose the guy they really want from doing this. Alot of girls just rationalize the loss by saying "the guy was a player anyway" or "didn't care". Ask girls that you know, and they will tell you that they probably have lost some guys by doing this. But you are right there is always a dude that will keep chasing, and he will also keep looking desperate. The problem with chasing is that it's a paradox. The more you play along and chase, the more counterproductive it is alot of the time.
For some reason playing hard to get it the most perpetuated myth among women. Heck even on Loveshack about a third of the questions from women are about whether they should play hard to get.

Why is it wrong for women to do but right for men?
Because men don't want women based on perceived value. If shes hot that's pretty much all we need. A chick could have no life and always be at home, and if she was hot we wouldn't care. Men are not that status conscious. The whole groupie mindset of wanting a person because they are valuable doesn't really work with men. Being hot is the primary motivator for men, not some artificial value attained by being too busy.
 

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Because men don't want women based on perceived value. If shes hot that's pretty much all we need. A chick could have no life and always be at home, and if she was hot we wouldn't care. Men are not that status conscious. The whole groupie mindset of wanting a person because they are valuable doesn't really work with men. Being hot is the primary motivator for men, not some artificial value attained by being too busy.
I agree to some extent, but not entirely. True, being hot IS her value.
But I've seen women who are very good at gaming men. If they appear to be in demand, it CAN make her seem more exotic and desireable. Guys like to impress other guys by taking out hot women. If a guy can get a girl who is in large demand it can be an ego boost for him. That's not the prime motivator for men by any means, but it can have an effect.

The thing is, the girl has to be hot to begin with. If she's hot, female "game" can amplify her appeal. If she's not hot, then it doesn't really matter.
On the other hand, guys may be just as likely to see that she plays games and decide to not even bother with her. But on certain guys it can have a big effect.
 

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Pandora said:
Actually women are their own worst enemies by using this approach. No self respecting man is going to put up with this behavior.
..... For some reason playing hard to get it the most perpetuated myth among women. Heck even on Loveshack about a third of the questions from women are about whether they should play hard to get.
Just to add to what Pandora wrote -
Playing "hard to get" is a deeply established belief amongst women.
It is indeed a cherished belief that is held to offer a guarantee of male pursuit by increasing her perceived value.

Uufortunately, for women, it is highly flawed -.
Firstly, it only works( sometimes) if the woman has already established some sexual attraction with a particular man. IT is a pointess exercise as a first line attraction tactic with a random guy..

Secondly, the men who are prized by women ( tall, handsome ,wealthy) can have their pick of women- and those are the very men who just walk away from a woman who indulges in adolescent mind games.

Finally, the worst "hard to get" players of all are those who are easy to get initially and then play mind games after the guy is hooked. This is pvssy power abuse and probably the undoing of many good men.
 

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Finally, the worst "hard to get" players of all are those who are easy to get initially and then play mind games after the guy is hooked. This is pvssy power abuse and probably the undoing of many good men.
Well fvck me if I didn't recently come face to face with one of these types recently.
I have name for these ***** power types...SLUT.
 

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Falcon25 said:
Pandora has got this shivt figured out. Great post.
Yeah but she has to have some personality, no? Or not? Or do we just wait for the HB10 robot industry to start production?
 

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Pandora said:
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Do not confuse this with a girl thinking you’re a hot and having sex with you. A girl having sex with you is not random or capricious it is based on certain physical and behavioral cues. A girl deciding to keep you around for the long term and being head over heels “in love” with you is unpredictable and random. A women can have sex with you for a week and not be infatuated with you in the least. She will then be able to dump you at any time with no real emotional investment.


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I hope every member of this forum can read the bold statement once a week. Then, all threads will disappear concerning "why did she turn cold on me all of a sudden? We already had sex!!!".
 
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