"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Don't really hook a girl

vorbis

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This problem is hard to describe. Since I'm come to the states (last January), I've been out on dates with about 12 girls. Some total that I've banged 0 (I've fingered two of them, tit groping with about 4 more, made out with all of them except one). The thing is that in most cases, things ended after one date or a few dates.

In a few cases, I can pinpoint some stupid actions on my part. In others, though I get this sense that their attraction for me plummets after just a few days. For example, had this chick over at my house, heavy makeout while watching a movie, she wasn't able to make plans to get something to eat the following week, she suggested plans instead. I wasn't able to make those and when I rang her back she didn't pick up and she never called me back.

With some earlier dates, an issue would be not talking about sex that much. I've changed that with the past few and I'm getting better reactions. However theres still the feeling that if I didn't call her, she'd never call me.

My biggest weakness would be a lack of emotional language. Its ironic, on 3 separate occasions I let fly at a girl in a text or email about being flakey and in each got a reply within 24 hours. I haven't been able to generate that need to contact me too often.

With one of the current girls I'm gaming, I was in a foul mood last night so I emailed her saying that she wasn't attractive enough to play games with and that she was a slut. After not hearing from her in a week, she responded within an hour. The weird thing is most of the response was her explaining why she didn't respond. The most negative thing she said to me was "Way to jump to conclusions"

The thing is this girl is just a swinger looking for a sex partner. The date went well, we chatted about sexual experiences, I started rubbing her legs, and she kissed me on the lips when parting. Yet this girl then ignores an email and voicemail from me and only responds when I hugely insult her. Some tips on generating a better connection would be appreciated.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Distant Light

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Are you getting enough rapport (more than 5 hours) How quickly are you doing all that fondling and heavy makeout? It could be buyers remorse and that is why your getting this because its 12 girls that it has happen. You would have to put more detail on what you did from start to finish to actually know what happen. An also you said you had one at home so did she give LMR that you werent able to lay? Need more info to really pin point what happens. As of now I think it is buyers remorse.
 

vorbis

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its hard to think back of each one in detail.

With the girl I got back to my house, there was LMR as it was a first date. We did make further plans and she actually suggested a party her friend was having but I couldn't go. She never responded after that.

Another girl I nearly same dayed, I met two further times and seemd to be getting on well with, good chance at f close the second time but I had to leave early. She flaked on me the following week, she rang me up and said she had to go back to the place she had been the night before to get her phone.

She started giving out when I said she could go a day without her phone. In hindsight I should called her on it. Never heard from her after that. She wasn't even that attractive, nice face but huge ass.

Another girl, I kiss closed at a party who showed high interest. I went out with her the following Wednesday and although I kissed her again, convo wasn't as fluid as the party had been. She did invite me to her housewarming that Friday. Stupidly I went (looked too available). She ignored me most of the night, I actually had one of her friends hitting strongly on me. Only got a hug at the end of the night and she never responded to my calls since.

Took a 34 yo woman who I met while walking to my buddies house out on Valentines day. Got back to her house but she got cold feet due to the age difference.

Of all the girls, I've actually stayed friends with one who I went out with in February. She said she had a good time but didn't feel any chemistry. She's the one I didn't even kiss. I'd still bang her but certainly not oneitis.

Only girl that ended well was irish like myself. We got close to ****ing but she displayed lmr as she had only known me a week. I would have ended up dating her had she stuck around in Boston. Have been sending a few emails back and forth since I'll be home for a while in September.
 
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