"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Don't look like this one is gonna work

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Damn. And I thought it started off good. Perhaps I ruined it. Perhaps there was nothing there at all. And now I don't think there will be. Perhaps, its still there. I don't know but I should keep options open. I figure one more try because I did manage to get this hotmom ("HM") to come back to work and pick me up today, after she had left 4 hours earlier.

The day started okay. I seen her, said are usual whats up and went about our business. I ran into her up in the brake room a few min later and had a small conversation with her. And she brought up my phone call

Her: I got your message!
Me: yeah. I woulda called back but I was busy..
Her: doing what?
Me: Oh just stuff...
Her: with who
Me: just stuff :) Did my number show up on your phone?
Her: No my phone died
Me: Uh huh. Yea. It rang twice and went to voicemail

Then got to work

Later on I ran into her and said
Me: Hey, meet me back up here at 10
Her: (probably thinking I was gonna ask her on a date or something, I probably should have) Why?
Me: Because I need a ride home, its raining out side. (it was heavy)
Her: FU (playful tone) I aint no taxi... yeah I will give you a ride
Me: (I missed the chance for some good come backs to this one) No, you got a little class, your my limo driver)

(if I was thinking I should of replied back to the "FU" with, "Na, just the ride for the night would be good)

Her: What!?
Me: You got a little class, so your my limo driver
Her: So wheres my hat

I grin and walk off.

A bit later I am on lunch and run into her again.
Me: You off already?
Her: Yup
Me: Cool. See you at 10 :)

All this was a test basicly to see if she would actualy come back to work 4 hours later just to give me a damn ride home. Well, it was raining.

10PM rolls around and I clock out and wait outside. About 1003 a call comes in and I miss it. It was her and since no one else knew I had a ride set up with her, they thought I left! A couple min later I get the message saying there was a call for me. Crud. The message was she was *going* to pick me up but since they thought I left, they did not go look for me. I learned this one I ran into someone who worked there and they told me.

I go back out side and ring her up. First time the voicemail picks up and I hang up. I wait a few moments and call her and she answers. Ask if I still want a ride and I said hell yea! She came and got me, then I busted on her for leaving me out in the cold. Which was cool, but it went down hill. Or at least did not go as I thought it would. Some one else wanted a ride to so he hopped in the car. She did drop the other guy off first, which was good. But She made a couple phone calls and jammed some tunes. She did hang up and we did chat a little bit.

During the ride, after she dropped this other dude off she was headed in the wrong direction. I told her she might want to turn around. She said she was and I said, "Good, there for a second I thought you was going to drive me some place and have your way with me" She said nah, I got more respect then that. Then we kind of chuckled.

Damn. Looks like low interest right here. But then again, its not like I asked for a date. So this could have been just a ride and why not? Thats what I asked for. This was my test and she did pass. When she was chatting on the phone, she referenced me as "my homeboy" Which, I guess would be correct. She can't say boyfriend or any of that crap since well, we are not. Just buds from work I guess.

I will likely tell her I want to hang and take it from there, just to see what happens, but right now, I would be suprised if much will. But then again, ya never know.

When I did call she got my number that time. And if she does call, I am gonna play the busy card again.

Go ahead and say it...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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For the millioneth time - if you are interested in a girl romantically then pursue her romantically and make your interest known relatively quickly!!!! Quit the shenanigans and time-wasting!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
For the millioneth time - if you are interested in a girl romantically then pursue her romantically and make your interest known relatively quickly!!!! Quit the shenanigans and time-wasting!
I figured I was? Can't very well tell her strait up I want to shag her, now can I?

I suppose I could just say, "meet up with me Friday at XXXX so we can hang and get to know each other. You and I, no phones, buddies or that jazz. Yes. A friggin date"
 

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Amen, Brother Lastman. And read the Bible, n00b!

If she was willing to do this for you then there's a chance. Just be smooth about it and don't go for it right away (that is, not right after this little quirky incident). Don't wait too long, tho. Lastman is right that you need to quit f*cking around.


I told her she might want to turn around. She said she was and I said, "Good, there for a second I thought you was going to drive me some place and have your way with me" She said nah, I got more respect then that.
hmm. I'm not really sure what that means.

But anyway, quit overanalyzing and be a man!
 

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Obsidian said:
Amen, Brother Lastman. And read the Bible, n00b!

If she was willing to do this for you then there's a chance. Just be smooth about it and don't go for it right away (that is, not right after this little quirky incident). Don't wait too long, tho. Lastman is right that you need to quit f*cking around.



But anyway, quit overanalyzing and be a man!
Over thinking and over analyzing is hard not to do, but I do see your point. Its gotta stop and HAS screwed me up a few times.

I downloaded the bible and will have a look.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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BTW, on a side note, I DID actualy manage talk to 2 other nice looking women that work there. Mostly just work chatter stupid stuff but, hey I initiated the conversation! It dragged out maybe for about a minute, which is a good start for me. Also said "hi" to a stranger who said nothing back. Oh well :rolleyes:
 
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Having a cordial convo with a stranger is one thing - a convo with a woman in which you have a romantic interest is another - two different mindsets and thus approaches and interactions - the one who fancies your interest should be a purposeful interaction and the other should be mere banter - know the difference and act!
 

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Very true. I have noticed that, women who I have an interest in, I have a harder time talking to then those who I just talk and BS with. And in truth both of these women I chatted with tonight I do have an interest in, but one I am pretty sure has kids. I posted because for the most part I don't really talk to anyone. Talking to people is something I need to do more.

WTF is this? About half the women I am interested in have kids for some reason?
 
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At 29 years old you better start invoking your vocal cords - otherwise silence will be the norm!! Yep, many hors have hor babys!!!! Pimp the hors, don't love them!!!!
 

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and maybe look for some younger women. In one of his brilliant posts in the past week, the Great Desdinova explained why you should never marry a single mom.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Okay today I am going to get her into some place a little more private, I.E., Out of earshot of people, tell her I got some free time this friday after work, her and I should hang out after she gets off. The take it from there.

How to I make my intentions known with out looking desperate or any of that? If she is in a good mood I figure we can take a game of truth or dare and play that because its sure to go south fast.

I guess what would be the next play? I am assuming get her alone, start touching more, have a good time, then lay a kiss on her and take it from there
 

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Obsidian said:
and maybe look for some younger women. In one of his brilliant posts in the past week, the Great Desdinova explained why you should never marry a single mom.
But you can still bang single moms, right?
 
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