"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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dont hold me at kissing you *****!

dannowillbookem

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well i just got out of the hospital and back from rehab. i really started coming to this site when i was in the hospital and in rehab (nothing to do all day and night hey why not) and im trying to build my once fearsome game back to where it once was. just letting you know, cause i hate asking questions when i usually answer them but ah well

anyways, i was out wednesday night, and made out with a girl in my buds backseat. to be flatout, this chick is a slut. but i couldnt even get my hand down her pants. we made out and i made out with her titties (jesus christ theyre huge) but i was kinda surprised. ah well, maybe shes just having a bad night.

friday...im out with the same bud, and two girls hitch rides with us to the beach. i was pretty high and acting insane, but to my surprise one of them really went for me. as usual, i lead her to quieter place (laying on the beach til sunrise) and we make out. but christ jesus, i cant get my hand down her pants. not a slut, but had sex twice before so not a virgin prude.


now heres the part where i come to you guys in tears...whats happening to me?:confused:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You're probably not setting the mood before you try to get into her pants. Read up on anticipation and girls building to want it.
 

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From experience, if you want a girl to let you put your hands down her pants you can't just randomly do it. You have to lead up to it to a point where she starts getting heated up and wet down there.

How you do it? Easy:

When you're making out, don't keep your hands still, keep them moving and feel around, up and down her sides. Don't just stick to her lips. Kiss her neck, nibble on her ear, kiss her chin, kiss down her chest, and move around, be unpredictable, then go back to her lips, but quickly move away. This will make her go crazy. REMEMBER: the whole time have your hands wandering, slowly going to the prize, but not so fast. When you're kissing, suck on her lower lip a bit, fondle her tongue, tongue wrestle. ALl of this is to build up the mood so when you do slide your hands down there she'll be receptive. Trust me, it works everytime, as it did last night ;-).
 

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jlazz said:
From experience, if you want a girl to let you put your hands down her pants you can't just randomly do it. You have to lead up to it to a point where she starts getting heated up and wet down there.

How you do it? Easy:

When you're making out, don't keep your hands still, keep them moving and feel around, up and down her sides. Don't just stick to her lips. Kiss her neck, nibble on her ear, kiss her chin, kiss down her chest, and move around, be unpredictable, then go back to her lips, but quickly move away. This will make her go crazy. REMEMBER: the whole time have your hands wandering, slowly going to the prize, but not so fast. When you're kissing, suck on her lower lip a bit, fondle her tongue, tongue wrestle. ALl of this is to build up the mood so when you do slide your hands down there she'll be receptive. Trust me, it works everytime, as it did last night ;-).

wow what a good way to explain it

i agree. girls act on their feelings! if they feel wet.. the want to fuk badly!

what i like to do is make out then slowly move to the neck.. then to the chest.. Kiss not suck.. kiss her breast with her shirt on... around the nipples just lightly then move back up the same way backwards... (neck to the lips)
while u doing that move ur hands.. feel her up... her thigns.. squeeze her ass once a while.. every 3 min.. rub ur hands on her hips then after rub her back.. under the shirt

thats what four play is all about :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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