"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Don't dance so what other ways are there?

whiskerbiskit

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i consider myself pretty good at closing the deal. i feel like if i can hold a girl's attention for 20 seconds chances are i can eventually get her. but my weak link is getting there in the first place.

i KNOW the easiest way to meet girls is to go clubbing but i absolutely have a mental block when it comes to dancing.

so.... what are the best alternatives and lines of approach?

wb
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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GloriouslyInsane

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Actually clubs are the worst place to chat-up girls.Try bars.
 

IamtheAlphamale

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I wrote a post about this recently search me and go to the one about club guide that I wrote concerning outside. Its got some tips. I find this forum is extremely lacking in this regard so.. thats what I am working on.
 

CrunchyNut

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Stand at the bar in the club. Normally they are the quietest areas, as the bar staff need to be able to hear your orders. Chat to girls that are queuing to buy drinks etc. If there is a seating area that is great as well.
 

DJVladdy

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Aight u guys are definitely overthinking it.
A club where they play hip hop music, in cities (NY, Boston, Worcester - from my experience) is the closest place you will find to a human mating ground. Simple as that. If im "feeling it" im successful with girls and having alot of fun, getting IOI's, grinding, etc. But if im feeling like "oh man im not good enough, theyre out of my league bla bla bla" - forget about it.
Walk into the club with ur boys, have a positive attitude, feel invinsible, untouchable, king of the world type feeling. I'm reading this stuff u guys write: chatting a girl up, buying drinks, c+f... I have this buddy who is 6'2'', but pretty big, average looking, and cannot tie 2 words together and hes pulling more b!tches at the club that all of u. I see him grind with this chick he looks like a raw sexual beast out there and thats what works. You need to get in that sexual mode, and feel your power. Get some basic moves down and u'll be fine. Overthinking is ur worst enemy at the club
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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whiskerbiskit

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so even if you DON'T dance you can still score chicks at clubs?

anyway, where would be the next best place after clubs to meet chicks?
 

DJVladdy

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sorry, at the club u gotta at least move a little. but honestly, feeling powerful and sexual will make up about 90% of ur "dancing" skills lol. by the way I may be talking about slightly different type clubs...
 

Monster

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Go with a group of people (guys and girls) for social proof and then get trashed and then you will do fine.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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The payoff that you get from being able to dance is well worth learning how to. I'm still baffled when guys avoid dancing even more than having a woman ask him to hold her purse.
 

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ive been dancing for 5 years and when i goto clubs and although it helps and may get some girls approaching you, it is second to good conversation/approach skills. I can draw alot of attention to myself. I dont get play purely from that still.. (i thought i would when i started learning).. but without game im either 'purely entertainment', a show off, or girls are intimidated because im a bit TOO good to dance with (eg: they dont know how they can dance with me to go with what im doin)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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