I'm telling you woman that you need to lay off the marriage thing.
Don't think that you are pulling a fast one, because you aren't.
You have some good views, and you are nearly as red-pill as a woman can possibly be, but your game is obvious. When you start gaming, I get the hump.
Cut out the constant "married women are high-value; you get better sex when you are married; men need to marry in order to fulfill their purpose" thing. Because it seriously pulls back any of the good things that you say, and it pulls back any guys looking to reach a better level. It's contrary to any sort of experience, or sense.
Marriage isn't jack sh*t, other than your end-game.
It's funny
@deesade. I am not "on" the marriage thing. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
My point is that men who find a beautiful woman who has a good head on her shoulders tend to want to keep her around.
Most women, especially the young, childless women, want marriage at some point. The best women have no issue in getting married because they are worth getting married to. I know any number of them...and they remain happily married. There are men on this board who are either married to or seriously dating marriage worthy chicks who are both beautiful and grounded. There are plenty of happily married couples out there in the world too. So it's not my frame at all. It's a fact.
That market segment does in fact exist, and men who are into the spin plates, never invest in a chick, all women are insecure, all women are this, all women are that crowd are exactly those who are not going to be in a position to enjoy a relationship with a woman worth marrying. Why? The chick knows her value and knows she can find another man who shares in that desire to marry, or who becomes of that mind after getting to know her. All you have to do is read married red pill sub on Reddit and so forth. Many of these red pill marrieds enjoy their relationships very much.
Men gripe constantly about the dearth of quality in the market. The fact is that the best women are the most marriageable women and thusly as they marry they drop out of the market, leaving less marriageable women in the market.
So the market suffers from attrition where good women are concerned. I don't think that should come as a surprise.
It's also no surprise that men who are dithering about with less noteworthy women (since the best ones get snatched up as a rule) become jaded and do not believe that good quality women exist. This is an ego protecting myth founded in suspended disbelief. These same guys also cannot understand that there are such things as "happy" marriages. More ego protection (since they are not the men who ended up with these best sorts of girls.)
You yourself have run into one or two worthwhile girls and the relation runs its course because eventually the chick wants to get hitched. Eventually its over since you are not going to capitulate. So you well understand the deal.
As for my game, I do not plan myself to remarry (although I've had it trial ballooned at me by a couple of men). I'm more a pick a great guy and enjoy a good stable enjoyable LTR kind of gal at this point, no certificate needed. Having been the one at risk for asset stripping (and having survived that unscathed) there is no way I'm putting my assets at risk like that with anybody else.
What I see on my end of the SMV market is what happens to player types when they hit the wall, because men are going to hit it also. They end up alone in many instances. And ending up alone is just dandy if that is what a guy prefers.
But then some guys end up there and the same thing happens to them as happens to post wall hot women. The party has moved on and they aren't included anymore. And they too wonder what the hell happened.
The retired pro hockey player I know is a sobering example of what happens to these guys. He's 55 years old, a rich bachelor. His knees are shot, he needs 2 knee replacements, he's got an elderly mum to look out for, houses in different countries and money out the wazoo. He's good looking and used to being a player, only he's come up against the realization that he's quite envious of his friends and buddies and colleagues who built families and have a devoted spouse and children and grandchildren to enjoy. He has no one to take care of him but plenty of women are happy to take advantage of him because he can afford to pay them. It's sad. He has nobody to nurse him once he gets his knees done for example, and he's starting to gain weight because one of his knees keeps collapsing and he can't work out enough to keep the weight off. He eats too much. He drinks heavily. He's very disappointed he never "settled down". He's almost bitter about it, because he admits he let some great women go along the way. But hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it?
My "game" is to be the best person I can be, to encourage other people to be the best people they can be, enjoy the present moment, be a good friend and/or lover as the case may be, give back, keep it real and to be very honest about what you want out of life. Not just in the short term, but in the long term as well. In the 20s and even in the 30s it's easy to take the short term view only and call it good. I've always looked more long term and I think most people as they reach the 40s and older also start to do this. But it's as difficult to explain this perspective to a much younger person much like my teenage kids cannot understand that I "get" being a teenager (since I was one long ago.)
So I just put a counter point out there as food for thought.
