"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dong Fu's Sinister Pyramid System

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Dong Fu's Sinister Pvssy Pyramid System

Here is another simple formula I have always used to easily meet and close women. It is a system for maximizing the potential of every female you interact with.

I cant design the pyramid in this post, but I'll explain it from the top brick down. This might seem stupid, but bear with me, it is absolutely valid.

Top Brick = 1 Female friend. We will call her Top Brick Girl (TBG)

Next bricks = Friends of Top Brick Girl, who she has introduced me to. These are now prospects who either become:

1. LJBF's who then serve as new TBG's in a new pyramid,
2. FVCK BUDDIES, or
3. GF's.

Fvck Buddies and GF's eventually turn into LJBF's, who are in fact new TBG's, and the cycle continues.


Here's another way to look at it in case all of that confused you.

You have one female friend. She introduces you to two others. You F-close one, and the other becomes a friend. Now you have two friends and one your banging. When you are done banging the one, keep her as a good friend, and now you have 3 friends.

All three girls have different other friends who they introduce you to. If the three friends lead you to 2 new prospects each, now you have 3 friends + 6 new leads. Those six lead you to 12, then the 12 to 24. I think you can see how this works.

I have a small network of TBG's who often lead me to new prospects who then get filtered into the pyramid.

The moral of this is:
If you get LJBF'd, make it a real friendship and she will be a top brick girl in a new pyramid. You can literally have dozens of these pyramids happening at once.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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great stuff.

Its probably something alot of us already do sub-consciously, but its the first time (I've seen) someone actually spell it out.
 

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Damn, this reminds me EXACTLY like car sales lol...
leads, working the pyramid, getting prospects, etc.
 

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I knew you were an Amway salesman!
Actually I worked for Ramway, as a penis salesman. :whistle:

JK, I despise multilevel marketing. My dad is sucked into one right now, and another friend threw a bunch of money at another one that never panned out. I always advise people to stay clear.

What my pyramid proposes is more along the lines of Multilevel Networking. I use this for much more than dating. The more contacts and connections you have, the more easily you will getting where you want to go.

One example is I raised my X's kid for a few years after we split up. I needed to create a whole network of other friends with kids, so I could get some help when I needed it. I also met alot of cool women in this process who lead me to guess what, more cool female prospects. It's a market I am still tapping into.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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yeah, this is probably something a lot of us do already but it was great to see it all laid out.
 

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baurman said:
Damn, this reminds me EXACTLY like car sales lol...
leads, working the pyramid, getting prospects, etc.
Many of my posts are sales related, because I work as a sales trainer for a few hundred companies, and I find so much in common with sales and getting dates. When you truly utilize your sources, you can get a lot of business from the ladies. You wont need to "Sarge" so much, which is the equivalent of "taking an up" for salesman. You will be too busy with women you already know or are being introduced to.
 

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Dongfu, I agree with your relation between sales & dates. I use to have this theory when I was younger that it actually is a correlation. Your entire life is a sale, that you are constantly selling yourself to the world and the better sales job that you can do, the better off you'll be.

If you want any success in life, your going to have to sell yourself or whatever your trying to promote. People really need to understand the importance of being able to sell even if you aren't in sales for a career.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Dongfu, I agree with your relation between sales & dates. I use to have this theory when I was younger that it actually is a correlation. Your entire life is a sale, that you are constantly selling yourself to the world and the better sales job that you can do, the better off you'll be.

If you want any success in life, your going to have to sell yourself or whatever your trying to promote. People really need to understand the importance of being able to sell even if you aren't in sales for a career.
The world market. You are in it like it or not.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The questions I have are, how do you get a Top Brick Girl? Who is she? How do you get her to introduce you to other girls?

I have more questions but those will do for now.
 

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Maxtro said:
The questions I have are, how do you get a Top Brick Girl?
I got a new TBG while shopping for shirts the other day. I developed good rapport with the saleswoman, and now she wants to introduce me to her niece. The niece may become an FB, GF, or a potential TBG. I'm sure she has lots of friends, who have lot's more friends.


Maxtro said:
Who is she?
A TPG can be any female you have rapport with. Friends of your mom, cousins, female friends from work, Gf's of your other bro's who like you as a friend. Female friends that you already have. Any girl that is a LJBF girl.

Think of every female on the planet as a potential TBG, and then watch for opportunities. They happen everyday.


Maxtro said:
How do you get her to introduce you to other girls?


This pyramid is a chain reaction.

1. Be social and you will meet women, everywhere
2. Be cool to the women you meet and they will like you. You will make the "Trust Sale."
3. This inspires them to want to introduce you to other women. (Every woman has a GF they are trying to fix up with someone)
4. When you are done dating a girl, end it on good terms. If you were cool all along she will refer you. My X wife, who is a total b!tch set me up with a couple of her friends.
 

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Dongfu said:
I got a new TBG while shopping for shirts the other day. I developed good rapport with the saleswoman, and now she wants to introduce me to her niece. The niece may become an FB, GF, or a potential TBG. I'm sure she has lots of friends, who have lot's more friends.
Thats amazing :yes: Was it the first time you've talked to her? Was she older? How did you get to such a high level of rapport with her?

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A TPG can be any female you have rapport with. Friends of your mom, cousins, female friends from work, Gf's of your other bro's who like you as a friend. Female friends that you already have. Any girl that is a LJBF girl.

Think of every female on the planet as a potential TBG, and then watch for opportunities. They happen everyday.
I'll definitely keep my eyes open and try to interact with all girls I come across.

Dongfu said:
This pyramid is a chain reaction.

1. Be social and you will meet women, everywhere
2. Be cool to the women you meet and they will like you. You will make the "Trust Sale."
3. This inspires them to want to introduce you to other women. (Every woman has a GF they are trying to fix up with someone)
This is my choking point. I try to be cool to every girl I know but I haven't had a single girl ever introduce me to anybody. None of my female cousins (one who just turned 18 and another who's 27), and none of my female friends that I had have ever mentioned anything about introducing me. I might have been so AFC that even they noticed and didn't think I was worthy of meeting their friends.

Anyways, fuck the past and I want to focus on the now and future.

How do I go about making girls know that I'm a cool guy and their single friends would be lucky to meet me?

I may have found a potential TPG but I'm not sure. She's a cute girl in my econ class that I just "happened" to sit next to. Unfortunately in one of our conversations I learned that she has a boyfriend as well as other stuff about her. I figure I have two options about her. Next class, pick a new seat and hope that the next girl I sit next to is single. Or I could keep my seat and keep talking to her.

What would you do?
 

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Maxtro said:
Thats amazing :yes: Was it the first time you've talked to her? Was she older? How did you get to such a high level of rapport with her?
I passed all her **** tests by being pro-active, no-pressure. She was about 40, and pretty hot. Her mom was there and tried to put me through every test she could. I was discussing sales with them, and she was trying to make me look dumb. I stayed cool and finally won her over.


Maxtro said:
This is my choking point. I try to be cool to every girl I know but I haven't had a single girl ever introduce me to anybody. None of my female cousins (one who just turned 18 and another who's 27), and none of my female friends that I had have ever mentioned anything about introducing me. I might have been so AFC that even they noticed and didn't think I was worthy of meeting their friends.
Did you ever ask?


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How do I go about making girls know that I'm a cool guy and their single friends would be lucky to meet me?
I always talk about having a hard time finding a girl who is deserving of my full attention. I talk about what women respond to, and anything that demonstrates experience. I intrigue them with interesting views that I have come across.

Maxtro said:
I may have found a potential TPG but I'm not sure. She's a cute girl in my econ class that I just "happened" to sit next to. Unfortunately in one of our conversations I learned that she has a boyfriend as well as other stuff about her. I figure I have two options about her. Next class, pick a new seat and hope that the next girl I sit next to is single. Or I could keep my seat and keep talking to her.What would you do?
Tell her she seems like a cool girl to hang with. Ask her if she has any friends worth mentioning. Tell her you have pretty high standards, but you like meeting new people.

It's hard to say because I am not you. Just try to find a common thread with her, something that you can use to get her interested in you as a person.

I dont know if any of this helps. I usually shy away from specific advice, because everyone has such a different style.
 

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Wow...I never really thought of this...but this is something I do already...but could definately maximize the potential of this :)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Update

One of my dads long time friends introduced me to a girl yesterday. Later he told me that she wanted to spend some time with me. We know what that means. She asked him why he didn't introduce us before. I saw her earlier and have plans on f-ing her tonight.

The top brick person can be a guy as well.
 

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Maxtro said:
This is my choking point. I try to be cool to every girl I know but I haven't had a single girl ever introduce me to anybody. None of my female cousins (one who just turned 18 and another who's 27), and none of my female friends that I had have ever mentioned anything about introducing me. I might have been so AFC that even they noticed and didn't think I was worthy of meeting their friends.
Dongfu said:
Did you ever ask?
Yeah I did. It was a few years back and I think my older chick cousin was talking about setting up one my younger male cousin with a friend of hers. I asked if she could do the same for me and she said that it wouldn't work because all of her friends were "good Christians" and she didn't think I was one. My other cousin wasn't a good Christian either so I think that was a BS reason.

I have asked some of my female friends in the past if they had any single friends and I've gotten answers ranging to "I don't have any girlfriends" to "none of them are single" etc.

Maxtro said:
How do I go about making girls know that I'm a cool guy and their single friends would be lucky to meet me?
Dongfu said:
I always talk about having a hard time finding a girl who is deserving of my full attention. I talk about what women respond to, and anything that demonstrates experience. I intrigue them with interesting views that I have come across.

Tell her she seems like a cool girl to hang with. Ask her if she has any friends worth mentioning. Tell her you have pretty high standards, but you like meeting new people.

It's hard to say because I am not you. Just try to find a common thread with her, something that you can use to get her interested in you as a person.

I dont know if any of this helps. I usually shy away from specific advice, because everyone has such a different style.
Hmm. It's kind of hard for me to get to the level of rapport where we are freely talking about relationship related subjects.

Any good ways to get to that level of rapport where both of us are feeling comfortable talking about that stuff? I have only gotten that personal with a very small number of girls and I never know how I got there.

Dongfu said:
One of my dads long time friends introduced me to a girl yesterday. Later he told me that she wanted to spend some time with me. We know what that means. She asked him why he didn't introduce us before. I saw her earlier and have plans on f-ing her tonight.

The top brick person can be a guy as well.
Heh, you seem to have a real good network. It's almost as if the puussy comes looking for you.
 

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Maxtro said:
Hmm. It's kind of hard for me to get to the level of rapport where we are freely talking about relationship related subjects.
Why do think that is? Where is the block happening?

Maxtro said:
Any good ways to get to that level of rapport where both of us are feeling comfortable talking about that stuff? I have only gotten that personal with a very small number of girls and I never know how I got there.
If you are comfortable with it, your audience will be as well.

Maxtro said:
Heh, you seem to have a real good network. It's almost as if the puussy comes looking for you.
It's true. I do very little to find it. I hardly sarge, unless it's to show someone how to do it. It seems like over the years, the less and less I cared about getting women, the more seem to appear. I dont know exactly why, but there is something to it.
 
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