Don Juan Bootcamp

[Nino-Tk]

haha man my town is huge and Ive got the advantage of living in two hoods, I go to my fathers place every weekend.

 

[BYOB]

Guess I don't have much to say about today...
got three from school, but no strangers outside of school...
I just wasn't feeling me today, its like all my enthousiam and energy left me this morning and wouldn't come back. Does anyone have any tips on how to change mood?
school: 12
Strangers: 23

 

[AlexLefty]

WEEK 1 Day 7

First off: Straight up cold approaching a girl in the halls and commenting her is harder than you think. This is the best I've done after a few days of trying to do it. I'm getting better, you should try it.

Also, I had a few shots this morning and went to school drunk. I like to do this once every few weeks because when I get drunk, I get happier and more outgoing, like the person I want to be all the time. It's kind of a wake up call to get back on it when I start slacking. Though I'm not completely drunk where I got the spins, I am a few notches above buzzed.

Confidence Start: 9
Confidence End: 8 (as I type this)

7:45 - Stopped 1 girl and complimented her on her hair

8:40 - Stopped another girl and complimented on her hair, then she complimented on mine

9:00 - Planed on doing one girl after class but she was too speedy, so I commented another chick in the class

10:30 - Missed out on the chick who I was going to do in second, too speedy. And missed out on the one in third.

3:00 - Missed out on a lot of strangers on the buss, I was in a bad mood for some reason (trying to be a jerk?) But did get 1 after the buss.

Totals
School: 26
Strangers: 26

:moon:

 

[kingxxxman]

alex, i like your cold approach... i think that may actually be easier for me to do than make eye contact/ say hi to random people since it is social taboo for ANYONE to go out of their clique in my town basically. do you this in a crowded hall during passing times or? what?

 

[SPEAK]

First off: Straight up cold approaching a girl in the halls and commenting her is harder than you think. This is the best I've done after a few days of trying to do it. I'm getting better, you should try it.

Also, I had a few shots this morning and went to school drunk. I like to do this once every few weeks because when I get drunk, I get happier and more outgoing, like the person I want to be all the time. It's kind of a wake up call to get back on it when I start slacking. Though I'm not completely drunk where I got the spins, I am a few notches above buzzed.

Confidence Start: 9
Confidence End: 8 (as I type this)

7:45 - Stopped 1 girl and complimented her on her hair

8:40 - Stopped another girl and complimented on her hair, then she complimented on mine

9:00 - Planed on doing one girl after class but she was too speedy, so I commented another chick in the class

10:30 - Missed out on the chick who I was going to do in second, too speedy. And missed out on the one in third.

3:00 - Missed out on a lot of strangers on the buss, I was in a bad mood for some reason (trying to be a jerk?) But did get 1 after the buss.

Totals
School: 26
Strangers: 26

:moon:

Alex Nice work, you are really focused and tearing this bootcamp up. Today is the last day and I'm gonna post the instructions for next week sometime tonight.

However, the shots before school thing is messed up bro. I know why you are doing it, because I was the exact same way. But instead of alcohol I used weed.

I (thought) I was way better at macking when I was high because I didn't care what anyone thought of me and the words just seemed to flow when talking to girls and I was a lot more relaxed.

However, after a year of being on this site, I have come to realize (and you will too) that you are at the peak of your DJness when you are at full awareness without any additional substances. All you need is confidence.

I smoked weed every morning, and before this class with this one girl in it, just so I could be better at talking to girls. HOW FVCKED UP IS THAT? I became a pot head for girls (among other less significant reasons.)

Alex, u seem to be using crutches to help you and are in what seems to be denial about it. I hope you will recognize it, but I imagine you won't because I had to figure it out for myself too.

But you will always reach your full potential (In DJness and everything else) when your awareness is at its full potential. Are you gonna take a shot before a job interview? first day of college? your wedding day?

Practice while you are sober and without any crutches (shots, weed, friends) because confidence needs to come from inside of yourself not from a bottle of Grey Goose vodka.

I am not trying to be the alcohol patrol or anything like that, I can party like no other (I did my first keg stand this month), but going to school after a few shots is extreme, and no girl is worth that.

 

[SPEAK]

As far as my approaches and what not I reached the minimum a few days ago but I went out yesterday just for fun. At the gym I said hi to like 10 strangers, and as usual all were very receptive, had short conversations with most of them.

I am very pumped for Week #2 because having convos with crazy people is a ton of fun.

I think I am going to add in for Week #2 at least 5 conversations with strange girls from your school, but I'm unsure. I'm open to suggestions!!

Keep trucking guys and remember this IS your LAST DAY to finish this.

 

[AlexLefty]

WEEK 1 Final Day

I (thought) I was way better at macking when I was high because I didn't care what anyone thought of me and the words just seemed to flow when talking to girls and I was a lot more relaxed.

Yeah i know what you're saying, but i don't do it to talk to chicks. Sometimes I get basically no sleep, am in a bad mood, and/or just don't feel like going to school. It just makes it worth it to go to my first period class. Instead of maybe holding a joke or two inside of my head during class, I'll just blurt it out with no remorse. So half of it is therapeutic for those days, and the other half is learning so I don't have to do it. I look back and realize how easy it was to just be that outgoing/happy and analyze it and apply it to everyday life. The last time I did it was actually the last planned time. The goal was to see how happy I was with it, and then apply it to everyday life so I dont need it.

I think I am going to add in for Week #2 at least 5 conversations with strange girls from your school, but I'm unsure. I'm open to suggestions!!

Hell yeah, set it up


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So the past few days I've realized how much of a nice guy I'm being. I'm not actually a Nice guy but I'm too nice for my personal preference. So i've been trying to work on it, so I didn't get any new ones today at school.

I did get four strangers though

Totals
School: 26
Strangers: 30



Lets get to week 2 b1tches :trouble:

 

[BYOB]

Well last day of week one.
I've learned that opening fo me, as long as there is a reason is really no problem for me, cold approaching is another beast, but I can do it, just with less success. I've also noticed that with girls in my current life I really lack kino, I'm also going to be working on that this whole boot camp.
At least I got five people from school today, all cute girls
and I also got two strangers
So in all
School: 17
Strangers: 25
guess i didnt make the quota =(
I think I might try the drinking thing if im in a bad mood for the morning.
How has it been working for you alex?

 

[SPEAK]

Well last day of week one.
I've learned that opening fo me, as long as there is a reason is really no problem for me, cold approaching is another beast, but I can do it, just with less success. I've also noticed that with girls in my current life I really lack kino, I'm also going to be working on that this whole boot camp.
At least I got five people from school today, all cute girls
and I also got two strangers
So in all
School: 17
Strangers: 25
guess i didnt make the quota =(
I think I might try the drinking thing if im in a bad mood for the morning.
How has it been working for you alex?

Hey BYOB I hope this is a joke man. You don't need alcohol to be outgoing!!!! Alex just said he was going to stop and realized that he can be happy and outgoing without it. Please read the above two posts. When you use a crutch such as alcohol and then u dont have it when you really need it for example myou hang out with your friend and he invites 4 hot ass girls over and you get in the car with them (happened to me) your ready for it and dont start hobbling around when you dont have your crutch. Girls can notice a gimp from a mile away!

 

[AlexLefty]

I think I might try the drinking thing if im in a bad mood for the morning.
How has it been working for you alex?

It worked well for me, and it might for you...IF you use it for the right reasons.

If you know you can be a more fun and outgoing person, AND you want to improve, I'd say, give it a shot. REMEMBER though, the only reason you're doing it is to LEARN from it. NOT to say:

I'm in a bad mood today, so I'm going to drink some vodka.

NO.

Here's the reason you should be doing it.

"I know I can be a more fun and outgoing person, I just need the SLIGHTEST push though."

Use it to see how fun you REALLY can be, and then REMEMBER what it felt like and analyze it, and try to apply it to your every day life.

It should not be a back support for when you're feeling down, but a boost up to LEARN how fun you can be. And once you know how fun you can be, you won't need it, because you'll always be able to be that fun.'

Saying that, don't get sh1t faced so you can remember what it felt like.

I myself only did it about 3 times, and that was enough for me. I know have that FUN feeling stuck in my brain, and know how to bring it out ALL the time.

Remember, it's not a crutch, it's just your little boost

 

[BYOB]

It worked well for me, and it might for you...IF you use it for the right reasons.

If you know you can be a more fun and outgoing person, AND you want to improve, I'd say, give it a shot. REMEMBER though, the only reason you're doing it is to LEARN from it. NOT to say:

I'm in a bad mood today, so I'm going to drink some vodka.

NO.

Here's the reason you should be doing it.

"I know I can be a more fun and outgoing person, I just need the SLIGHTEST push though."

Use it to see how fun you REALLY can be, and then REMEMBER what it felt like and analyze it, and try to apply it to your every day life.

It should not be a back support for when you're feeling down, but a boost up to LEARN how fun you can be. And once you know how fun you can be, you won't need it, because you'll always be able to be that fun.'

Saying that, don't get sh1t faced so you can remember what it felt like.

I myself only did it about 3 times, and that was enough for me. I know have that FUN feeling stuck in my brain, and know how to bring it out ALL the time.

Remember, it's not a crutch, it's just your little boost

Oh I get it. I guess I don't really need it.
Although when your feeling just out of it, what do you guys do to fix it?
I usually just play guitar, but at school that isn't practical because I don't have my guitar at school...

 

[SPEAK]

WEEK 2 DAY 1!​

Okay Recruits, nice job on the first week! We have recruited more people and we WILL all finish this sh1t.

Week #2 is all about conversations and perfecting your conversing skills if you will.

I realize that for many of you this will be terrifying (I know it was for me the first time I tried this bootcamp) but once you get the first one and feel that rush in your blood the rest come easily.

I can easily go and talk to any stranger except for girls my age (approaching them scares me.) Its funny to say because its not like I'm scared of girls. I am sure most of us are in the same boat.

So the main point of a conversation with anyone is to LISTEN! Why worry about what to say when all you have to do is put a huge smile on your face and nod and laugh sometimes about what other people are saying. That is fake listening and its a good default mode to program yourself to go into.

However Active listening is WAY more effective. This is where you repeat something back to the person, but with different words, so they know you have understood it. Its an amazing tool and I have mastered it a long time ago, and it has made me an extremely well liked person. Because people will like you if you make them feel special and seem like you care about their stupid stories.

A quick example I can think of, happened to me at school today, was this kid who I am acquaintances with was telling me at our group at lunch today about these new roast beef sandwich microwavables he got... I know right fascinating conversation topic

Anyway this is how it went down:

Him: "There is a sticker on the packaging that you slice and then you put it in the microwave for 1:30."
Me: (smiling and interested) "So you just cut the sticker and stick it in the microwave?"
Him: "Ya its great and sometimes I put extra cheese inside after I microwave it."
Me: "WHAT! Extra cheese AFTER you microwave it, thats extreme!" (Notice I wasn't mocking him I was just being very interested in a funny way, there is a difference.)


I had a conversation and didn't say sh1t. But people think I am an AMAZING conversationalist, its funny. All people do is want to talk about themselves, so develop a fake (or even better) a genuine interest in them and you will be extremely well liked!

Alright down to business...

Procedure for week #2

1. Read Week #2 articles in the bootcamp .pdf
2. Reread week #2 articles.
3. Read field exercises at the bottom of thread.
4. Write field exercises down.
5. Visualize each exercise,conversation, and approach before bed.
6. Post on this thread that you are pumped and WILL, NO MATTER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES, FINISH WEEK #2!!!!



Field Exercises:

I made these different that what they are in the .pdf, I figure the more specific they are the easier it will be. There is only one exercise, we gave the newbies a break in the last week. Now they have to play with the big boys.

Exercise #1:

Have at least a 2 minute conversation with the following people:

• 2 Elderly people
• 1 Delivery person (mail,ups,pizza)
• 1 Gas station worker
• 1 couple (Couple counts as 1 person)
• 1 Black Person
• 1 Homeless person
• 1 cute girl (outside of school)
• 2 cute girls (In your school)
• 2 convos with whatever strangers you want!

As you can see these are very specific conversations so you better get started soon! Its like a Don Juan style treasure hunt haha. You have until Friday September 17, 2010 to post a short summary of every conversation you had (so you better keep a journal.) Good luck with the 12 convos people!

 

[AlexLefty]

WEEK 2 DAY 1!​

• 2 Elderly people
• 1 Delivery person (mail,ups,pizza)
• 1 Gas station worker
• 1 couple (Couple counts as 1 person)
• 1 Black Person
• 1 Homeless person
• 1 cute girl (outside of school)
• 2 cute girls (In your school)
• 2 convos with whatever strangers you want!

Ah sh111t, getting to specifics haha. Yo I like this because it's so specific, and it actually makes you WORK for your conversations by FINDING them. As opposed to just saying, go get 10 random ones. If it was just 10 random ones, you would probably just wait for them to happen. This way, it makes you be AGGRESSIVE because you have to FIND conversations.

This also comparable to going to a store to get your hellos. It gives you an exaggerated sense of commitment because you actively work for it, instead of just saying hi to who ever you run into.

Yo im fvcking pumped because now people HAVE to carry a journal, i mean, how will you remember all those otherwise?

Also, if you have not finished up last weeks quota, well then guess what, YOU GOT OVERTIME. You now have to finish up your hellos as QUICKLY as possible. Cancel that outing with your friends or family and go to the grocery store. It should only take you about 10-20 minutes anyways.

Good luck bros! and good huntin, knock um dead :kick:

 

[Nino-Tk]

Im done with my week 1,just didn't have time to post my results...teachers were on a month long strike, so now that the strike is suspended.. We are buried in work, I really need this weekend...okay week 2 shouldn't be a problem at all, but I jus gotta ask, a black person? That caught me by surprise when I noticed you didnt mention white person...I think you couldve put it better by saying that speak with someone different from your race?

 

[SPEAK]

Im done with my week 1,just didn't have time to post my results...teachers were on a month long strike, so now that the strike is suspended.. We are buried in work, I really need this weekend...okay week 2 shouldn't be a problem at all, but I jus gotta ask, a black person? That caught me by surprise when I noticed you didnt mention white person...I think you couldve put it better by saying that speak with someone different from your race?

Well I figure most people on this site are mostly white/hispanic or brown I guess. And a black person is a specific type of person, and as there are less of them than white people its more specific. Sorry to seem racist or anything, I'm not.

 

[PuertoRicanGuitars]

I did all my hellos and I'm real comfortable doing it. SPEAK real smart of you to put specific types of people, that should make things better and more difficult. Well tomorrow I might go some youth group thing with my friend Joe. The guy is hilarious, and can openly talk and start a conversation with anyone with confidence. Kinda of excited but nervous too since I really haven't completely rid of my shyness.

 

[AlexLefty]

WEEK 2 Day 1

Im done with my week 1,just didn't have time to post my results

Post your results anyways! Make time, this is important.

I did all my hellos and I'm real comfortable doing it.

You too bro, why havn't you posted any results, we ALL need to post results to help and LEARN from eachother. This is actually REALLY important, so you NEED to post results. If you don't you're not only hurting your self, but everyone else as well.

This goes for you too SPEAK
Post some d@mn results!:box:


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Confidence Start: 9
Confidence End (as I write this): 9

6:32 PM - Had about a 5-8 min. convo with a guy on tracks. When he exited is when it stopped. It was good flowing and everything. Honestly, he looked a little weird at the start but after I said "Hey what's up man", he opened up and it got going smoothly

7:01 - Tried takling to this milf on the buss ride home but she wasn't very receptive. She didn't look like she wanted to talk in the first place but I just went for it and she wasn't very receptive so after about 30 seconds I ended it and just didn't respond

Totals
* 2 Elderly people
* 1 Delivery person (mail,ups,pizza)
* 1 Gas station worker
* 1 couple (Couple counts as 1 person)
* 1 Black Person
* 1 Homeless person
* 1 cute girl (outside of school)
* 2 cute girls (In your school)
* 2 convos with whatever strangers you want! - One

 

[kingxxxman]

nice job boys.... im proud of you guys. unfortunately, im gonna have to call it quits on the bootcamp...my highschool + location isn't great for this and im super stressed with 6 IB courses... yeah im really smart lol. but yeah im gonna just try some of these when i have time but i'll be monitoring this and maybe if i get a little less busy, i'll hop on the train... for now im ridin solo and doing what i can. good luck alphas.

 

[Kevansta]

Today there was a football game and for whatever reason I felt amazing. Hi-fiving everyone, talking to random kids, and just overall having a good time. I feel like this DJ stuff is starting to work.

This one really cute girl that I've had a one-itis/crush on since freshman year even ended up going and standing right next to me on the bleachers and i was able to get a conversation in with her (and even some light kino). Afterwards, I went to McDonalds with two friends and their girlfriends, and it was still awesome since I was leading the conversations, making people laugh, and just being a general alpha. I even had a conversation with a manager that just started as a lighthearted question as to why the McDouble is only 1 cent more than the regular cheeseburger.

All in all, today was a success in my book. I can't wait for the weekend.

Totals:
1 cute girl (at my school)
1 random stranger

 

[MrP]

I don't know where I'm going to find a homeless guy in suburbia...

But, Homewerk, I know it seems really hard, (And still still is very challenging for me), most people want to be talked to. Seriously just ask OPEN ended questions to keep them talking.

Ex. #1 MrP- "Hey, whats up? Wow, your backpack is huge! Do you think that some people are going to have back problems when they get older from all these books?"

Person- "Blah, Blah."

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Ex. #2 MrP- "Hi, what's your favorite kind of pie?"

Person- "Cherry."

MrP- "Why is that?"

Person- "When I was little my grandma would make cherry pie...

IT'S EASY! Good Luck.