Doing things in public...girls say NO

[Babnik]

The idea is not to be bound by social constrains and do what you feel.

If you want to kiss a girl - kiss her! If you want to get closer and hold her or kino her - do so!



HOWEVER, girls I went out with kept saying NO to kissing in front of other guys which we knew. They didn't like kino in front of friends either.

ISOLATED - yes, but otherwise no! They rejected public affection, kissing, etc.

CLUBS are OK. Bars - sometimes OK, not always.

Other public places during the day and such - NOT OK.

So, you are on a date at a coffee place or skating or bowling or whatever....its public most of the time!

What do you do then? She could reject you because its a public place but NOT because she doesn't like you.

Sometimes there isn't a near-by unlocked janitor room where you can take her. PLUS, she is most likely going to freak out if you take her to something like that!

Taking her to my place on the first date - not going to happen if you go for quality women OR when you haven't established THAT good of a rapport or attraction.

So, I am limited and I can't do things that I want to because of public places and social conditioning imposed on the GIRL, not me.


Its acceptable to do things in public if you are a couple already, but not before then.


Like, how do you kiss=close a girl when you take her out for lunch or walk with her somewhere on college campus during the day and everyone around walking and stuff?!

 

[So pimp its scary]

Babnik, I have a feeling that you are fairly out of touch with things that go on in the real world (as I see it) that I have a hard time to offer any type of advice.

What I would tell you is that a girl that rejects a kiss is because she does not like you, and nothing to do with social conditioning... maybe not all the time, but enough of the time as to be effective/

Then I would say, getting sex with a girl is about the emotions that you create inside of her... if you make some intense feelings in this girl, then she will overlook some of those 'moral' restraints that would usually prevent her putting out. AKA - It doesn't count if he swept me off my feet.

Now, to answer your question... how to kiss close a girl : Ask her number, lean in close while she writes it down, from close, look her in the left eye, the right eye as you take the paper (or your cell) back, then look her in the lips and back in the eyes, lean in and kiss her.

If she moves back or rejects you, walk away and dump the number.

I'll be nice and also add that when you first kiss a girl leave your mouth semi open so that if she wanted just a peck it's ok, but still easy to transition to making out.

 

[Babnik]

Babnik, I have a feeling that you are fairly out of touch with things that go on in the real world (as I see it) that I have a hard time to offer any type of advice.

What I would tell you is that a girl that rejects a kiss is because she does not like you, and nothing to do with social conditioning... maybe not all the time, but enough of the time as to be effective/

Then I would say, getting sex with a girl is about the emotions that you create inside of her... if you make some intense feelings in this girl, then she will overlook some of those 'moral' restraints that would usually prevent her putting out. AKA - It doesn't count if he swept me off my feet.

Now, to answer your question... how to kiss close a girl : Ask her number, lean in close while she writes it down, from close, look her in the left eye, the right eye as you take the paper (or your cell) back, then look her in the lips and back in the eyes, lean in and kiss her.

If she moves back or rejects you, walk away and dump the number.

I'll be nice and also add that when you first kiss a girl leave your mouth semi open so that if she wanted just a peck it's ok, but still easy to transition to making out.

So....the same girl I made out with in private rejects me in public because she doesn't like me and when we get back to being in private she starts liking me?

Because thats how it seems...

 

[Labourer]

best thing in the world doing things in a public area, many years ago now lol my gf and I used to like outdoor sex, the times coming home from a night out and screwing in the street or giving each other oral down an alleyway was the best, damn I miss that! lol

 

[gherald]

best thing in the world doing things in a public area, many years ago now lol my gf and I used to like outdoor sex, the times coming home from a night out and screwing in the street or giving each other oral down an alleyway was the best, damn I miss that! lol

i miss that too...

well...if you're not doing kino right,(is there a right thing to do that)i mean if you that in an awkward manner...she'll reject...kino must be subtle and natural...

 

[Babnik]

i miss that too...

well...if you're not doing kino right,(is there a right thing to do that)i mean if you that in an awkward manner...she'll reject...kino must be subtle and natural...

Er....kino is fine, but they just won't make out in public. They will only do it at my or their place. Never in front of friends (mine or hers).



I mean do you ever see two people go on a date to a coffee place during a day and then come out and just randomly make out? NO!

I'm not sure...maybe its because of SC being in the Bible Belt, but people do stuff in front of other people!

 

[PRMoon]

I mean do you ever see two people go on a date to a coffee place during a day and then come out and just randomly make out? NO!

One of the girls I'm seeing is VERY public with me. Throw her arms around me and kiss me and touch me in caring ways. She doesn't care. I'm say jokingly sometimes "My God woman we're in public!" and she's laughs and says "So!? Maybe they'll learn something" then she'll point out how other people are jelouse because we're so hot. I think it's pretty cool and it's not like I'm going to be seeing these people again.

There are a few factors to be concidered but i wouldn't say it's too unusual.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Its all social conditioning. But if you got her all emotional you could do anything in public. It's mainly only bf/gf dynamic that usually show affection in public. Why? because that guy is most likely a provider type of guy so she knows he will stick around. But right after he drops her home she will go to her seducer type of guy who she just met 2 days ago and have wild sex all over the house.

The girl can't be seen as a slut so she wouldn't do certain things in public (Varies girl to girl) unless its her bf that she has been going out with for awhile. You can usually tell this type of couple because the girl is bored and just cuddling with the guy and once in awhile the guy gives a kiss or two. An it looks all lovey-dovey like. You could easily steal those types of girls.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So....the same girl I made out with in private rejects me in public because she doesn't like me and when we get back to being in private she starts liking me?

Because thats how it seems...

Why is it so important for you to have social proof? It seems that any success you have with women is a wasted effort to you unless people see your success.

 

[PRMoon]

Its all social conditioning. But if you got her all emotional you could do anything in public. It's mainly only bf/gf dynamic that usually show affection in public. Why? because that guy is most likely a provider type of guy so she knows he will stick around. But right after he drops her home she will go to her seducer type of guy who she just met 2 days ago and have wild sex all over the house.

The girl can't be seen as a slut so she wouldn't do certain things in public (Varies girl to girl) unless its her bf that she has been going out with for awhile. You can usually tell this type of couple because the girl is bored and just cuddling with the guy and once in awhile the guy gives a kiss or two. An it looks all lovey-dovey like. You could easily steal those types of girls.

The funny thing is that this girl is completely opposite from everything you just described. She actually pays everytime we're on dates. She's the one who jumps all over me, we've only been going out for a few months and I don't concider her my g/f, and she's more worried about me seeing other people then I am her. It's pretty funny, but I suppose it's the end result of being a player and spinning plates.

 

[Babnik]

Why is it so important for you to have social proof? It seems that any success you have with women is a wasted effort to you unless people see your success.

NO! I am saying that often there is very little opportunity to kiss close a girl in public if she is not the public type. OR she will reject me because we are in public and yet it does NOT mean she doesn't like me. Like one kiss is OK, but making out - no.

So, on dates I find it hard to make a move on a girl because she may not like the fact that we are in public!

 

[Babnik]

Bump! I'm going out and I want to f*ck that ho and yet we're going to be in a very public place! GR!

 

[So pimp its scary]

Then sexlude the girl... hell don't even bring her in public... offer to cook her food at your place then watch a movie...

Something about rejecting her in public... well, you're gonna have to get her explaination since she sounds like she might like you. Despite a big lack of information.

 

[PRMoon]

So, on dates I find it hard to make a move on a girl because she may not like the fact that we are in public!

Well damn there's your problem. It has nothing to do with her, the problem is you. You need to be assertive and more take charge. If you want to make out with the girl in public then just do it. I mean not out of no where like you're in a movie theater and you jump on her like a lion (although that's not unheard of either). Sit next to her at a booth and touch her legs and stomach while you're looking at the menu, talking to her, waiting for food, while you're eating. The more touching you do the more arrousal you'll get, assuming the girl likes you to begin with. After a while you'll be making out with her...At least that's what my girl does to me anyway. Weird this role reversal stuff.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Now, to answer your question... how to kiss close a girl : Ask her number, lean in close while she writes it down, from close, look her in the left eye, the right eye as you take the paper (or your cell) back, then look her in the lips and back in the eyes, lean in and kiss her.

AMEN. Triangular Gazing in practise here in number close. The combined kiss-number close contingent. Wow. I've got to try this. I thought kiss closes were only confined to dates from people you meet from the internet. Got to broaden my horizons.

This Triangular Gazing thing is mentioned on Strauss's game book, and is here again, look into left eye, right eye, lips, back, and kiss --- it's a MAGIC WAND, you can kiss anyone, in business, or whatever, just look in their LEFT eye, then look in their RIGHT eye, and lips and back into eyes and kiss-close.

Got to make a field report on this.