Doing push-ups on fist

[Hedgehog]

Has anyone been practicing this?
Can you give me any tips? Like, what is the best routine for this?

 

[DX_Flyer]

Ive been doing them, they arent that hard. My previous tae kwan do master taught me to do them on your first 2 knuckles. I can do about 30 on my fist. Now if you want real challenge, do them with only your fingertips as if you were spider-man.

 

[Lt dan]

why, what is better abotu doing them on yoru fists

 

[LaZaRuS]

Originally posted by Lt dan
why, what is better abotu doing them on yoru fists

I'm pretty sure it's to make your knuckles bigger.

 

[Hedgehog]

I don't know if it is better than regular push-up from the point of building your arms.
But it can make your knuckles harder. After a lot of wear and tear you will have a hard tissue there. Then you can hit anything you like and it doesn't hurt that much.
However I still don't know how much is good and how much is too much, coz I start having bruises on my knuckles.

 

[Demon]

Forget about knuckle push-ups. There's no point. In fact, forget about doing anything to harden your knuckles. You'll only end up damaging the nerves in your hand and develop arthritis much faster later in your life.

Some people think it's cool or good to have hard knuckles. I've heard such responses as "...but hard knuckles will help me in a fight." Here's some martial art truth: striking attacks and punches don't do much damage. Using blunt blows with your palms, knees, and elbows are where punishing attacks come from. Sure, getting hit with a knuckle punch is going to have a jabbing pain... but only for a short time. Hitting hard with your palm has a longer effect and the probability of knocking the opponent out is greatly increased.

If you're going to do push-ups, do them on your palms. Flex your wrists. Make sure you're flexible. Rest.

By the way, when I used to do push-ups on my fists, the exercise was much easier which tells me something...

 

[ultrashogun]

Demon why the hell schould a palm strike do more damage than a knucklestrike? The point of impact in smaller so it does much more damage.
Anyway knuckel pushups arent supposed to build up you knuckels at all, they strengthen your wrists so it stays stable when you punch someone. Thats why its pointless to do any if you dont do martial arts.
Demon ive never heard of anyone having any negative effects from doing them and I practise two different styles of karate were there are people who have been doing them for decades.

 

[Demon]

Throw a knucklestrike to your temple then throw a palmstrike to your temple. The blunt of your palm has more power behind it than a knucklestrike does. If you've really practiced two martial arts, what are they and how long did you study them for?

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[ultrashogun]

explain the physics behind why the palm has more power than the knuckels.
I did judo for 6 years and ive been doing both kyokushin karate and shotokan for 2 years now.

 

[ultrashogun]

Is that topic from that forum supposed to be an authority on this discussen? Those people arent really saying very smart stuff and Ive read other stuff on other forums that say the exact opposit, dont just repeat other peoples oppinions, talk from experience and if you dont have any then dont say anything.

 

[Demon]

Come to California. I'll show you if you don't know how to hit with your palm. My mother is a 3rd degree master in Judo. She's more of an authority on it than you are. I haven't asked her though. When she gets home, I'll ask her and tell you. By the way, that's hardcore Judo that my mom learned in the Phillipines at a time where crime was rampant (it still is) and boys and men didn't mind beating up on women. Needless to say, nobody went after my mom after she defended herself from a male attacker.

You're also not one to criticize others on the intelligence of their posts. You haven't said a damn word that's over an IQ of 60 since you've been here.

 

[ultrashogun]

Why the hell should your mom be an authority on striking if she does judo?

 

[Demon]

I never said she would be an authority on striking. I was talking about Judo since you mentioned your experience in that art. Two years of Kyokushin Karate and Shotokan isn't going to make you an authority on anything either.

Blunt objects to the head are going to affect a person more so than sharp objects would at least in competition. Therefore, the blunt of the palm, when performed correctly, can knock out an opponent instantaneously. A fist can do the same given that the attacker has the skill and power but using the palm is a whole lot cleaner.

talk from experience and if you dont have any then dont say anything.

Don't pull out that kiddie sh1t.

 

[ultrashogun]

Blunt objects to the head are going to affect a person more so than sharp objects would at least in competition.

At least in competition? what the hell is that supposed to mean? The only reason why a palm strike would be better is if you didnt condition your wrists. Dont criticize my IQ if you think that a blunt surface does more damage than a sharp one.

 

[Demon]

A sword kills while a mace damages. Your IQ has been criticized. Deal with it.

 

[ultrashogun]

A sword kills while a mace damages.

you have to admit that thats just plain bull****. The killing of someone in hand to hand combat will be due to damage, so in this situation "kill" will be due to lots of damage.

How bout you just do 30 knuckel pushups each day so you can gain some experience on the subject?

 

[Demon]

During my 8 week training cycles for bodybuilding, I used to do 200 knuckle push-ups every 4 hours every other day. Don't lecture me or presume to know what I'm made of, boy. I swear... dumb Germans.

 

[ultrashogun]

During my 8 week training cycles for bodybuilding, I used to do 200 knuckle push-ups every 4 hours every other day.

Thats cool, I used to do 500 each day myself and I have no problems whatsoever.

dumb Germans.

Dont be childish

 

[De La Soul]

Originally posted by Demon
During my 8 week training cycles for bodybuilding, I used to do 200 knuckle push-ups every 4 hours every other day. Don't lecture me or presume to know what I'm made of, boy. I swear... dumb Germans.

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Demon,

"Damn Canucks..."
"Dumb Germans."

Cut out the racist remarks. If you're getting frustrated, just back yourself up with more argument, insults don't further your cause.

 

[Demon]

What's my cause, oh mighty one? To prove to some dumb German that palmstrikes have more power than knucklestrikes? I don't need to prove that.

The power of knucklestrikes is concentrated, therefore having a smaller area of effect. Not to mention that the average fighter is inaccurate with his punches.

Palmstrikes are a whole lot more successful, have a wider area of effect, and are much more powerful. Of course, if you're just some joe with no strength, then it won't do you any good. Bruce Lee made extensive use of palmstrikes ultimately because he believed them to be more effective than knucklestrikes.

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And De La Soul... why do you come back to do your job as a moderator every ONCE IN AWHILE?