Doing bad on dates: frame it so she's chasing?

[Huffman]

These days, I seem to go out with a lot of hot girls that are only semi-interested.

This is new to me, because back in the day these kind of girls wouldn't even give me the time of day. But I look good and am mostly confident now, so girls rarely turn me down anymore.

But it means I'm on a date with a girls who are not 100% sold on me - me neither on them, but as the guy I have to call the date. And immediately the dynamic shifts to me I'm chasing them. I have to initiate kino. They won't pull back, but not reciprocate much. This goes on and on, and if I don't call again I never hear from them.

So why bother with these girls? Well I'm horny, straight and simple, and I have time to kill. And a hot girl with sky-high interest comes along very seldomly.

How can I break the dynamic of me chasing them. Are these really lost causes? Are they attention wh*res and there's nothing I can do? Or can I do something to shift the frame to them actually chasing me.

I feel like there should be a chance - I'm constantly going on dates with hot girls after all.

 

[skinnyguy]

So I actually act like I'm just talking to them as a friend. This goes against the whole "escalation" thing that PUAs preach but when a girl is that hot you can't act needy. If the girl thinks you have an abundance of hot women in your life she will act differently.

As they say on SS treat the HB 9 like an HB 2.

Good that you're doing better in the looks department as well. Last night I was at a club with a girl who was grinding on my c0ck the whole time but there were blonde girls checking me out on the dance floor so it was a fun night out and I felt super confident.

 

[pyros]

There are three types of women:
a) the ones that like you from the begining
b) the ones that dont like you from the begining
c) the ones that find you just average, or the neutral ones.

You wanna find the ones in the a) category, unless you want to put a lot of effort, get flakes, overthink, get mad at them, etc.

Yes, you can turn a c) girl into an a) girl, but more often than not it wont just happen, which is your case: you're putting all the effort and getting nowhere.

OK, for the first two dates or so it is ok if you initiate etc, but if after two dates she doesnt ever text you, seems busy, or flakes etc...I would just drop her, it is difficult, you dont want to drop a girl that makes you hard, but...you can either do this and go find girls in the a) category or get frustrated.

 

[Huffman]

Yeah I know you're right, thanks. But soooo much time passes until I meet another a) girl... I can't wait forever you know!