doesn't it really just come down to looks?

[joekerr31]

you know, for all the tactics talked about, doesn't it all just come down to looks?

I mean, alpha males don't need to do anything to get laid. If they're handsome and built chics are falling over each other to get to them.

now, sure, they may screw it up once they get the woman (but it usually takes a LOT of bad behavior to do so).

Im beginning to think that ultimately, getting chics (easily), comes down to one thing .... looking good and having an alpha male physique.

I've yet to see an alpha male guy who couldn't get laid any time he wanted.

anyway, what's your thoughts?
J

 

[lebRambo]

the flaw (quite a big one) in your reasoning is that you assume that being handsome implies being an alpha male. This is wrong. I know a lot of guys who are far better looking than me, but either don't know it, don't sarge or make any attempts, or just don't have any confidence.

I think it comes down to confidence far more than looks. The alpha male is ALWAYS confident, but the alpha male is not always good looking.

 

[flexion_]

How you look does allow you to meet more women.

But how many women you meet has nothing to do with how many you have sex with - that part of it has nothing to do with your looks.

 

[salsipuedes]

I am good looking, and i can get plenty of dates, trouble is, thats about it, once the girls start to know me, its all down hill from that. I also have several friends that are not as atractive as i am, yet always get girls, and always manage to keep them.

Looks are nothing, trust me, i would trade a little of my looks for some confidence anytime.

 

[ScrewIt]

you can be a good looking guy and still be an AFC who's a lazy bum with no ambition and still fail.

Desired traits fall hand in hand, the more good traits the better.
But im not implying a perfectionist here, just dont be a slob.

Success in general is only limited by our actions. So being hot can also be a limiting factor only if you allow it.

 

[Anomalous]

This is that 31 years of CHUMPNESS. THIS IS THE BASICS:crackup: :crackup:

 

[joekerr31]

hehe. i was just throwing a thought out there for discussion.

no need to call me a chump.

 

[dadmonson]

But they don't don't wanna screw thur child over if they have a baby by given them bad lookin genes does she?

 

[Tboner]

Looks are nothing, trust me, i would trade a little of my looks for some confidence anytime. - salsipuedes
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I have a school mate that's a 9.5, wears the best clothes, but has no game at all. He gets laid occasionally by HB6's who approach him. The HB8's and HB9's approach him regularly, but eject quickly.



I think it comes down to confidence far more than looks. The alpha male is ALWAYS confident, but the alpha male is not always good looking. - lebRambo
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I know an outlaw biker who is a 3 on the looks scale, 5-5, 220 lb of fat, many bad tattoos, missing teeth, bathes once a week, wears the same dirty clothes. He gets laid fairly consistently by HB7's and HB8's and a few are high class women. He's got good game.

 

[Derek Flint]

Take some good-looking, alpha-male and put him in an environment where the women are attracted to the Emo-type guys, and let's see what happens.

Not all women are going to automatically spread their legs for the good-looking alpha-male.

The party-girl types will more likely do so, because they've been conditioned by society to do so.

Yes, looks matter, but not as much to women as to men.

There's plenty of good-looking rich guys out there who can't get laid because they are afc's.

 

[Spirit Fingers]

I have a friend who literally looks like a model, and he can't get laid to save his life.

One of the greatest PUAs I know has below average looks.

Looks do matter, but they're nothing compared to your game.

-Dan

 

[Phantasmal]

I know an outlaw biker who is a 3 on the looks scale, 5-5, 220 lb of fat, many bad tattoos, missing teeth, bathes once a week, wears the same dirty clothes. He gets laid fairly consistently by HB7's and HB8's and a few are high class women. He's got good game.

Oh come on. Do they have to sex him in order to get into his biker gang or something?

 

[MVPlaya]

Originally posted by lebRambo
the flaw (quite a big one) in your reasoning is that you assume that being handsome implies being an alpha male. This is wrong. I know a lot of guys who are far better looking than me, but either don't know it, don't sarge or make any attempts, or just don't have any confidence.

I think it comes down to confidence far more than looks. The alpha male is ALWAYS confident, but the alpha male is not always good looking.

Good Looks also breed confidence because of the positive reinforcement you constantly get.

Women also like to **** hot men. This is not to say not-so good looking men can't get laid, just that its a lot harder than if you looked good.

 

[Inquire]

for me anyway it does. i am versitile so i can be with a ***** or a silent shy girl, it dont really matter unless she is hot.

 

[mackattack120]

So many girls at school like me because of my looks but I never got sex because I was too shy to talk to anyone. You need to have game.

 

[Sart]

Yes and No

A friend of mine was a tall lanky weed who couldn't get laid in a brothel. He decided to become a body builder and shot steroids and became Mr Australia. As he use to say, when he went to a club, 75% of women despised him on site, 25% wanted to bang him on site......great stats hey!

He dressed sharp to accompany his new build and confidence came forth from that 25% of air headed cuties. This guy IS NOT and alpha male, our friendship ended when I trounced him for trying to steal from me. I remember thinking, he looks okay, he dresses well, but I look as good, I make more money, I am smarter, all he has is that body. Why can't these stupid bytches see that? But then I thought, how many okay looking women wonder that about we men.

Looks make EVERYTHING easier, as I said over at pimphop, but as Player Supreme would say, your mouthpiece has to be there as well.

Another friend of mine was good looking but had no game at all. He looks like Jefferson from Married with Children. A chick took his virginity at 20, he nearly settled with her but then took up some more offers. This guy would have had 500 women easily by now, he is a player. He didn't learn it, his looks thrust it at him, solely his looks.

Where does that leave the rest of us. I am above average in everything but outstanding at nothing except two things, 1. Manipulation/influence and 2. I am a risk taker.

Hope that helped, but yes, I would swap looks for a few IQ points.

 

[Tyron]

Yes it does matter. No, it won't make the difference if you've have the game.

Usually looks is not just "looks". Your smile, gestures, clothes, confidence just to name a few will all contribute and will make the impression of you looking good or not. And that's also part of the game.

 

[Freeman]

Originally posted by joekerr31
you know, for all the tactics talked about, doesn't it all just come down to looks?

I mean, alpha males don't need to do anything to get laid. If they're handsome and built chics are falling over each other to get to them.

now, sure, they may screw it up once they get the woman (but it usually takes a LOT of bad behavior to do so).

Im beginning to think that ultimately, getting chics (easily), comes down to one thing .... looking good and having an alpha male physique.

I've yet to see an alpha male guy who couldn't get laid any time he wanted.

anyway, what's your thoughts?
J

I agree with you -yes everything begins with that initial animal attraction

 

[gimmeyofonenumba]

obvioiusly, it all comes down to looks.
Lets say and ugly chick approaches you, but she has goot BL EC and all the other sh!tty abreviations we have. Do you think it really matters? you still aint fvckin her. Its not so much for women, but mostly the same.
Especially if you pick her up in a club, where shes used to getting hit on. If your not great lookin, try mostly picking up in a store/library or sometihng.

 

[Wyldfire]

At least for me...it does start with looks. If I'm not attracted to a guy no amount of confidence, suaveness or anything else is going to make me want him. Period.